Re:Gernons/de Veres and de Bolbecs.

Started by paul garnham on Wednesday, December 29, 2010
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12/29/2010 at 2:44 PM

Hi, I am Paul Garnham, and am writing a "book" about the de Gernon/Garnham family, mainly those descendants in Suffolk. We were connected to the Bolbecs, when my 18th Gt.grandfather Sir Ralph III Gernon, Lord of Gt.Birch and East Thorpe, married Eleanor de Vere, her father was Sir Robert de Vere, 3rd Earl of Oxford, who married Isabel, daughter of Sir Hugh II de Bolbec, who became my 20th gt.grandfather, does anybody else have connections with the de Gernons, our ancestor being Baron Robert de Gernon, Duke of Boulogne, born 1035 in castle Gernon, Calvados, Normandy.

12/29/2010 at 3:10 PM

I'm going to make sure our medieval oriented curators are aware of your project, Paul. I know there are several who have studied the de Vere's in Geni, for instance.

Tell us more about your "book" and what you've learned.

12/29/2010 at 6:19 PM

Hi Erica. I have established the origins of the Garnham namem being derived from "Gernon"to Garnon, Garnan to Garnham in England,slightly different in Ireland. We came from Baron Robert de Gernon, Duke of Boulogne, many of his family settled in Essex, and then Suffolk. This spawned the Cavendish family via Roger de Gernon, Sir William Gernon, son of Ralph III; had three sons, Sir William II, Lord Sir John of Lexden, and Hugh Gernon. Hugh was the only brother whos male line still continues in Suffolk today, of which I am one.Suffolk holds the greatest concentration of Garnhams in the world today, I have put most of my finding on my website: http://garnhamancestryandorigins.webs.com/ It seems that through Osbern de Bolbec, and his marriage with Gunnor's sister Aveline, we are cousins to Dukes of Normandy and King Canute and Edward the Confessor. A "foot in both camps". Would love to hear from you , best regards Paul

12/29/2010 at 6:46 PM

Hello Paul! I'm very interested in talking with you, I'm one of the medieval-oriented curators that Erica mentioned :^). Tell me more about your research. Do you have your tree on Geni?

12/30/2010 at 4:40 AM

Hi Paul,
I too have worked on some of the profiles you mention above and am all agog to hear more¦¬}

12/30/2010 at 10:06 AM

Paul, have you seen this or do you know of this researcher? http://www.goodreads.com/story/show/22470-two-articles-on-the-old-n...

Also, are you new to Geni, or do you have an established tree? If you are new, then the best way to proceed would be to work with one of us who is a curator to find the existing profiles of those ancestors and add yourself to them and help to develop and solidify that lineage. Then simultaneously you can be building up your tree from yourself, and you can connect to that historical tree.

The way the curator system on Geni works is that there are public profiles (which generally form the historical tree) and then there are private profiles which consist of the closer generations to yourself. We curators work with users like yourself to develop the public, historical profiles, and we try to create one Master Profile (MP) for each historical figure and merge all the duplicates into that one. We encourage people to build up the information and data on the MPs to create a really solid genealogical database which is also encyclopedia-like in terms of biographical profiles.

One way to get started would be to start a Geni Project on the de Gernon surname. That would fit nicely under the Anglo Norman umbrella project that I oversee--would you like for me to do that and to add you as Project Collaborator, which would allow you extra editing and merging privileges on these profiles?

12/31/2010 at 1:27 PM

Hi, I can confirm that we have probably four lines of the Gernon ancestry that takes us to Gunnor, wife of Richard II, 3rd Duke of Normandy, my Gernon ancestors were Norman barons. Richard and Gunnor, had five children, Richard III "the good" 4th Duke of Normandy. Also Emma, who married Aethelred the "Unrede" King of England on 5 th April 1002. They had son: King Edward the Confessor. Her second husband was King Canute II whom she married 2nd July 1012, they had son, King Hardicanute, they also had five other noble children. We descendants, are therefore cousins to the Kings of England and the Dukes of Normandy. I still side with William, as he had a blood rite to the throne, Harold Goodwinson, was merely a brother~in~law to Edward! William was right the kick Harold out. Paul

12/31/2010 at 4:15 PM

Hi should have said Gunnor married Richard I "the fearless" not Richard II, that was her son. Happy New Year! Everybody~ Paul

12/31/2010 at 4:22 PM

Hi Erica, Pam and Terry, I have been writing a family history for about ten months now, I have created a web site http://garnhamancestryandorigins.webs.com/ I am also lodging updated records, with Suffolk Archives office in Ipswich, as this is a piece of social history, as well as family history. All good wishes to you for 2011. Paul.

1/1/2011 at 2:19 PM

Thanks, Paul. I'll check out your web site. Let me know if you need help getting connected to the Big Tree on Geni.

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1/30/2019 at 6:41 AM

I have just come across this conversation as I am also researching the Gernon Family, I have gone back to Thomas Gernon my 3x gr-grandfather, born in Dublin, Ireland, question I need to ask are all Gernons related? My line is the Irish line and also been looking in to the History of Gernon Family

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