Please don't mix mythological with real persons!

Eero, instead of screaming here on discussion, a note directly to me would have been nicer...connection dleeted, thanks for noticing.

Sorry Susanna (by the way, that's a Hollies hit, isn't it...?), I should have noticed that you were the Curator! I just get so upset whenever an ancestor line of mine crosses mythological terrain on its way to even older but real ancestors, like in this case to the Merovingian kings... Thanks for correcting the mistake. I'll try to whisper the next time!

This mythological character appears to have been reconnected into the World Tree and is providing a descent from Odin to real people.

There seem to be other Discussions complaining about this too.
I'm disconnecting her from her 'parents': mythological Brynhild Budladóttir, {Hversum Noreg byggdist} and Sigurðr Sigmundsson, {Volsunga saga} - This in order to defer the decision about the historicity of the parentage of Ragnar "Lodbrok" Sigurdsson 's sons.

so Snorri Sturlusons Edda, Völsung Saga and the Saga of Ragnar Loðbrók are not a valid souce material regarding Áslaug?

Not as a real person?

Snorri wrote sagas, not histories, and the sagas are often a mixture of history, family tradition, and myth. He was much more interested in the overall pattern of things and big dramatic scenes than he was in complete accuracy.

The Eddas are definitely *not* history, but compilations of myth and folklore (and Snorri was only responsible for the Prose or Younger Edda - we don't know the author(s) of the Elder or Poetic Edda).

As to Ragnar - we're still working on that one.

I haven't deleted her - I'd presumed you'd put her in the project for the saga? Where would you decide that oral history is insufficient to prove historical connections? I thought 400 years and scholarship that seems to agree that she can't be located in history wasn't ambiguous. Happy for you to go a generation back on her mythological parents - but I though that just might mess with your line on any saga project.
No intention to step on your toes here, Harald.

well the Sagas are the source of our knowlade of Ragnar Loðbrók... does that mean that he has to be removed as well? and all persons from biblical stories as well...

The historical status of Ragnar Loðbrók as real person appears to open for debate. I would tend to agree with whatever Harald thought.
All persons from biblical stories that are not within about a 100 - 200 years of documented history - yes, I'd say they need to be moved to projects as well.
I've removed St Anne as the grandmother of Jesus because there are no contemporaneous sources to prove her. So, yes.

Ragnar Loðbrók -- if he existed at all -- was the father of the leaders of the Great Heathen Army. Everything about him is fake.

WHO’s Harald in This confesation?

Harald Tveit Alvestrand

I am a bit puzzled by this one, Eero's original post was that Aslaug had been connected to real profiles (Sigebert I of Austrasia, a Merovingian king), Susanna dealt with that.

Today Sharon has cut Aslaug's links to a set of parents that it is very hard to argue are real themselves (Sigurd Sigmundsson, of Denmark and Brynhild Budlasdatter).

I don't see how cutting links between "ficitional" profiles helps.

Sharon was making sure she was definitely only cutting fictitious people out of the wft
cf: I'm disconnecting her from her 'parents': mythological Brynhild Budlasdatter and Sigurd Sigmundsson, of Denmark - This in order to defer the decision about the historicity of the parentage of Ragnar "Lodbrok" Sigurdsson 's sons.'

The better cut is Ragnar - but it needs a better man than I am - or have time to be - to do that. Enter Alex, stage left, with knife....

I don't remember a decision about the historicity of the parentage of Ragnar. I just remember lots of debate. What did I miss? And how did we end up here? Let's make the cut at Ragnar.

I have a thought but no time. How many lines of decent from Ragnar?

Bjorn Ironside sons were kings
Sigurd Snakeeye daughter's married nobles.
Alof"s son is in Landnamabok

Who else?

Sigurd, Ålof, Bjørn and Erik have descendants to the 3rd generation. Sigurd's tree being the widest (he links into Orkney saga and Landnamabok).

https://historylinktools.herokuapp.com/graph?profile=profile-g56042...

Re - "the historicity of the parentage of Ragnar" - this is the mother of one of his sons - so I didn't want to cut her connection to him and then. Rather let you guys have that discussion.

Åslaug Sigurdsdatter, {Ragnars Saga} Is mother of several of Ragnar's sons and arguably she is actually the main character of both Ragnar's Saga and the saga of Ragnars Sons.
Like i said earlier she is mythical/ legendary as are her parents so i dont see how cutting that link helps butt nevermind we can always reconnect later

The issue - if I recall - is that Ragnar's sons are NOT legendary - so before you cut their parents, you have to make sure you've got them linked if you think they're full brothers. This is a conversation that needs to happen. I the meantime, Kraka is connecting the WT to Odin - so cutting her off from that while we wait the BIG discussion about Ragnar.

Eero Gustaf Ignatius

I dont understand why it should be so upsetting as long as they are clearly indicated as such.
I find it interesting. If you do come across such profiles there is a project created to identifying fictional genealogy. It includes links to more specific fictional genealogies as well.We project creators and managers appreciate the help.

https://www.geni.com/projects/Fictional-Genealogy/8908

Oops I just noticed the discussion originator has passed on. RIP Eero

You know, I always wanted to be a descendant of Odin. :-) Sometimes these discussions just make me so happy to be able to absorb the history - descendant of Odin or not - of course, most likely not....

I am going to give my humble opinion, this debate began 5 years ago back in 2018 and they have lasted in Geni until today. My question is why am I going back to the same thing now?