third cousins?

Started by Private User on Sunday, November 28, 2010
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11/28/2010 at 2:35 PM

Yes, 3rd cousins. The double gets more interesting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cousin

I *think* this is part of your case:

If a male and a female third cousins have children, then these children would be siblings / double fourth cousins.

11/28/2010 at 3:48 PM
Private User
11/28/2010 at 5:02 PM

This one should confuse you even further:

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~medieval/consang.htm

But apparently, no one but the church really cares as long as it's not first cousins:

http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~medieval/consang.htm

Edgar Allen Poe would be an unhappy camper today, so it seems, particularly if he were living in Texas after 2005...

11/28/2010 at 8:11 PM

In my reference they ARE 1st cousins and married to keep the money and land in the family and was sanctioned by the church. That wasn't confusing enough?

Private User
11/28/2010 at 9:14 PM

Poe? Yeah, first cousin of his wife. The sanctioned by the church part I hadn't heard of, but then it's early 1800s America too. Maryland, I think. Would have to look it up again...

Private User
11/29/2010 at 5:42 PM

In my story, the girl has a little boy Richard. If I have them get married, probably will, and they have a child, what relationship would 'their child be to her child? Thanks to all of you who have helped!!!

Private User
11/29/2010 at 5:49 PM

I think they call that a "cycle" in "genealogist's lingo"... eh, it happens...

11/29/2010 at 6:07 PM

Cousin marriage was very common in some Jewish families. I assume especially in rabbinical families where lineage (yihus) was recorded and especially in closed communities.

My great grandfather married the granddaughter of his mother's brother, so my great grandparents were cousins (1st cousins once removed?). That was actually a more distant relationship than many of my relatives had with their spouses.

Several of my great grandfather's brothers and sisters married their cousins.

And my great great great grandfather's siblings' children married cousins in the majority of cases. In some instances, by the third or fourth generation, one would be descended from at least two and up to three siblings due to cousin marriage.

And no we don't glow in the dark but we know some family issues are genetic and suspect others may be.

The cousin marriages continued in this country, at the beginning.

11/29/2010 at 6:28 PM

have you ever heard the song "I am my own grandpa"? it's totally possible... but Geni wont allow it. it can't show more than one relationship per tree. It'll add the little "+10" icon... 10 being arbitrary for the example.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I'm_My_Own_Grandpa

Private User
11/29/2010 at 8:54 PM

August, actually, there is nothing stopping you from creating cycles (or in the case of "I'm My Own Grandpa" a Mobius strip). You just won't be able to depict all the relationships at the same time to show off the loop/figure 8/helix you've created. Maybe this will be possible in some future upgrade of the program...

11/30/2010 at 9:40 AM

@richard
The relationship is always the shortest route to the other person
for instance I'm my own 6th cousin, but I am myself not my 6th cousin and my brother is my brother not my 6th cousin (even tho he is also my 6th cousin) Other wise (and this is just for arguement sake) my brother might also be my 25th cousin and my 30th cousin depending on how many times a cross between cousins happens. We're all inter related some how, and at times related in more than one way,

11/30/2010 at 5:10 PM

Ben, I realize that... and that is what I was trying to say. what I meant was 'you can't see it'. but you put it much more eloquently. I take it you work at Geni?

Private User
11/30/2010 at 5:28 PM

Nope, this is something to pass the time until I find paid work... the payoff for me is an accurate tree for my daughter to get to know after she gets old enough to appreciate it.

12/2/2010 at 1:29 PM

so tell me this.... how is this site pronounced? Geenee? Geen-eye?

Private User
12/2/2010 at 6:12 PM

"Heni" if in Spanish :)

12/2/2010 at 7:24 PM

Like "genial" in Spanish haha, which means "cool" I believe.

Private User
12/2/2010 at 9:27 PM

I'll have to use that one "genial" - the people who think I'm not learning Spanish fast enough will be thrilled, I'm sure...

12/3/2010 at 7:40 AM

My Spanish is rather odd since it was learned by osmosis over 38 years, not through formal study. And mostly learned from listening to Argentinians. But look "genial" up and see if my sense of the semantics of the word in Spanish is correct.

Private User
12/3/2010 at 8:14 AM

Ah, Argentina, where they ask you "como te shama" instead of "como te yama", and a "bombiya" becomes a "bombisha"... I'll be there in about 24 hours (Mendoza)

12/3/2010 at 8:16 AM

Enjoy the wine in Mendoza. Actually you should write the "ll" and the "y" more like "zh" in your transcription. As in "azure" in English.

Private User
12/3/2010 at 8:18 AM

of course I should, except when illustrating the difference between the Spanish of the Argentines and all the rest of Latin America... :)

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