Charity is not the daughter of Frances Vane

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Charity is not the daughter of Frances Vane. The Frances everyone tries to link her to was too old to have given birth to Charity. In addition, Charity was born in the New World and Frances Vane died in England.

http://genforum.genealogy.com/grubb/messages/165.html

ANCESTORS OF FRANCES GRUBB:

In his 1893 work, Gilbert Cope provides no information about John Grubb’s wife other than that her name was Frances. In December of that year, Judge Ignatius Grubb wrote that her maiden name was Vane, and that she was the daughter of Sir Henry Vane the Younger (1613 – 1662). Sir Henry Vane was a Puritan who immigrated to Boston and became the second governor of Massachusetts. After serving his term, he went back to England to participate in the Civil War and became one of the main spokespersons for Cromwell. Sir Henry Vane was executed after the restoration. The story is that Frances Vane was born in 1642, first married Edward Kewkewich of Minhincot, Cornwall and became a Quaker. After Edward’s death, she married John Grubb in Cornwall about 1675 and came to America with John. Supposedly, her money enabled John to purchase land upon their arrival.

This story is pure nonsense. In fact, the daughter of Sir Henry Vane was buried in Shipborne parish, Kent County, England on June 4, 1683. Further, if John’s wife was the daughter of Sir Henry Vane, she would have had three children after her 50th birthday!

Based on her children’s birth dates, Frances Grubb was probably born about 1660. A Frances Vane was born that year in Randolph County, Virginia. Interestingly, a John Vane, also born in Randolph County moved to Ocean Township, New Jersey where he died in 1710. Also the same year, a Samuel Vane was named in the will of Ann Hartup of New Castle County, Delaware. While none of this evidence is conclusive, it was quite common for Quakers in the older colonies to move to the Delaware Valley after Penn established his colony there.

Maria,

Can you put in good simple wording for a "curator's note" to float above the master profile and we'll get it going for you?

Erica Howton

1. The first line in her "about me" is IS NOT RELATED TO FRANCES VANE -- READ NOTES ON PARENT'S PROFILES!
2. Her mother's display name is Frances Grubb (NOT A VANE) Her profile is here: Frances Buffington
3. Her father's display name is John (DID NOT MARRY A VANE) Grubb. His profile is here: John Grubb

Sorry, here is the correct link to John "The Immigrant" Grubb who did not marry Frances Vane --John Grubb.

The link for his wife Frances is correct.

Maria, I think I heard that Charity is not the daughter of Frances Vane. <tongue firmly in cheek> Hang in there, girl! :)

Sincerely,

Marsha (DID NOT MARRY A VANE) Kamish Veazey

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Well, the info is on the profile but no one was reading it. At least now I will get their attention, right?

Glad you DID NOT MARRY A VANE. I DID NOT MARRY A VANE either. We might not be distant cousins if we had. I appreciate your sense of humor.

{{{ virtual hugs }}}
Maria

LOVE those curator statements. All my warnings on Charity are in the boxes now, and not in her name fields.

Quick hint: Inserting a
in the Curator notes will start a new line.

Hi Maria: I noticed that you are managing a Richard Wheeler husband of Sarah Wheeler Rice (Prescott) Could this be the same Richard that came on the Ship the Thomas in 1635 at age 24. Do you have any other information regarding this Richard. Thanks Milt

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