Cheapskate needs lookup in Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s

Hi Marsha,

I have an account with Ancestry.com that gives me access to the Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s, but so far I am struggling to find your John. The first page of results gives:

Name: John Veazey
Arrival: 1761 - Maryland
Name: John Veazey
Arrival: 1725 - Maryland
Name: John Veazey
Arrival: 1700 - Maryland
Name: John Veach
Arrival: 1598-1867 - Nova Scotia, Canada
Name: John De Vagha
Arrival: 1666-1750 - Maryland
Name: John De Vagha
Arrival: 1666-1750 - Maryland
Name: John Vaux
Arrival: 1679 - America
Name: Nathanael Veazey
Arrival: 1662 - Somers Islands
Then it goes on to list records from the U.S. Naturalization Records Indexes, 1794-1995

I'll carry on looking and willlet you know if I spot anything.

I know he was here 'way before 1700. By 1670 there are land records.

There are rumors floating now about the Wicocomico native American tribe and the possibility that Veazeys intermarried. We're doing DNA testing.

Nathanial originally went to Bermuda, I believe. I'm fairly certain it's a different family but might be related to the Suffolk Veazeys.

Such a sly devil, he is! Where did ye come from, John Veazey???

Thanks so much for your help, Arthur!!! Let me know if there's anything I can do for you.

As it happens, I live in Suffolk, so please do let me know if you want me to look up any written records locally.

No kidding!!! My family was stationed at RAF Bentwaters/Woodbridge near Ipswich. We LOVED it - hated to come home. We used to walk along the River Deben....<lump in throat>

I am pretty sure (through DNA testing) that we Maryland-originating Veazeys are not related to the Suffolk Veazeys, which is a bummer as they go back to 1066! They were quite anxious to disavow any links to us, though. <wink>

Do you have any suggestions as to where I could start looking for an Ireland connection? Also, is there just one Suffolk Veazey family, do you know? Such a thick brickwall....

Is this recordfor a Margaret Vesey any use?
Name: Margaret Vesey
Year: 1668
Place: Maryland
Source Publication Code: 8510
Primary Immigrant: Vesey, Margaret
Annotation: Index from manuscript by Arthur Trader, Chief Clerk in the Maryland Land Commission, 1917. And see nos. 4507-4511, Land Notes.
Source Bibliography: SKORDAS, GUST, editor. The Early Settlers of Maryland: an Index to Names of Immigrants, Compiled from Records of Land Patents, 1633-1680, in the Hall of Records, Annapolis, Maryland. Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1968. 525p. Repr. 1986.
Page: 477

I live in Debenham which is near the source of the Deben! And I work in Ipswich!

I had a look for Veasey in a CD set of The Complete Peerage by Cockrane. Would you be interested in a few pages about "Fitzgerald and Vesey(Vesci/Vescy) of Clare and Inchicronan"? Records are late 1700s and early 1800s.

Also Vessy or Vescy 1449-1469?

Hiya Arthur. I would think the one we would be looking for is the Vessy or Vescy. 1449-1469. The Veazey we are looking for just appeared out of no where in Maryland in the late 1600's.

How about this guy:
John Veazey
Birth 1647 in Essex, England
Death 1700 in Cecil, Maryland
Marriage 1670 (Age: 23) Cecil ,Maryland to Martha Broccus
Parents William Vesey 1565 – 1634
and Mary Bedingham 1569 –

Do any of you have any manifests passenger lists for ships into Louisiana from France circa 1600s-1700s for the names FOURNERAT or DAIGLE? I understand that an earlier Fournerat may have come to New Orleans in 1721 but my later ancestor came circa 1870 Antoine Eugene Fournerat during the Franco-Prussian War...leaving Dijon.

I guess it depends on where that listing came from. Is that all it provides? That's what everything we have says, but there is no actual record that we have managed to find, with an actual birthdate, or date of emigration. Nice old trail we are following here.

Hi Gregory,
The Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s on Ancestry do include ships from France, but if I search for "Fourneat" the first two entries I get are (1):
Name: Catherine Fournier
Year: 1718
Place: Louisiana
Source Publication Code: 9190
Primary Immigrant: Fournier, Catherine
Annotation: Date and port of arrival. Name of ship, place of origin, and occupation may also be provided.
Source Bibliography: TOUPS, NEIL J., compiler and editor. Mississippi Valley Pioneers. Lafayette, La.: Neilson Publishing Co., [1970]. 135p.
Page: 26
and (2):
Name: Jean Fournier
Year: 1718
Place: Louisiana
Source Publication Code: 1290.1
Primary Immigrant: Fournier, Jean
Annotation: Date and place of census or listing of landowners. Only those names whose immigration was implied were indexed, those who were probably born in the New World or who were serving limited terms were not. Mainly French and German immigrants. Port and date of
Source Bibliography: CONRAD, GLENN R. The First Families of Louisiana. Baton Rouge, LA: Claitor's Publishing Division, 1970. Vol. 1. 231p.
Page: 20

Daigle is a bit more promising (1):
Name: Etienne Daigle
Year: 1731
Place: Louisiana
Family Members: Wife & 3 children
Source Publication Code: 1290.2
Primary Immigrant: Daigle, Etienne
Annotation: Date and place of census or listing of landowners. Only those names whose immigration was implied were indexed, those who were probably born in the New World or who were serving limited terms were not. Mainly French and German immigrants. Port and date of
Source Bibliography: CONRAD, GLENN R. The First Families of Louisiana. Baton Rouge, LA: Claitor's Publishing Division, 1970. Vol. 2. 239p.
Page: 63
and (2):
Name: Christopher Daigle
Year: 1652
Place: Virginia
Source Publication Code: 2772
Primary Immigrant: Daigle, Christopher
Annotation: Includes 25,000 names from records of the Virginia State Land Office. Excerpts of the Irish names from the Greer list were published in no. 6258, O'Brien, Early Immigrants to Virginia....
Source Bibliography: GREER, GEORGE CABELL. Early Virginia Immigrants, 1623-1666. Richmond [Va.]: W.C. Hill Printing Co., 1912, 376p. Reprinted by Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, 1978. Repr. 1982.
Page: 86

Hi Barry,
The info I gave about John Vesy 1647-1700 is from a tree on Ancestry owned by "onewayk, Mission Viejo, California, USA" I could try to contact him via Ancestry and put you in touch if you like.
Clicking back along the paternal line, it goes back to:
William Vesy
Birth 1524 in Hintlesham, Suffolk, England
Death 04 JUL 1577 in England

OK. Ive seen that one on Ancestry also. I'm not sure of that one. It is on several family trees. I think it all comes from Duncan Veazey's lineage chart he did, with the help of a geneologist back in the late 19th century. He "accepted" this to be his family line, but I'm not sure he ever had any "solid" proof.
I just sent my FTDNA test back, so we should find out whether or not we are Native American. That will narrow things down a bit.

Have you always lived in Debenham? It is so beautiful there. My part of Texas is very green but nothing like Suffolk. I'm hoping to go back some day. Maybe we can meet for a cuppa? :)

The Margaret Vesey info is interesting. John spelled it that way in his will.

The info from Cockrane is later than I'd like but it might hold a clue. but the Vescy part makes me think it's the Suffolk Veaseys and not our John.

The John Veazey from Cecil Maryland is our guy but the 'born in Essex, England" is totally unsubstantiated. And look at the date of the supposed father - he died 13 years before John was born. I know for a fact there were no test tube babies back then. LOL!

Hi, Barry! The way this is sounding is more like John was a Wicocomico and maybe took the name from someone he met. It is exactly like he came from thin air!

@Gregory, If I serach "Antoine Eugene Fournerat", I get:
Name: Nellis A Fournerat
Arrival Date: 3 Nov 1863
Birth Year: abt 1833
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race-
/Nationality: French
Place of Origin: France
Port of Departure: Antwerp, Belgium
Destination: United States of America
Port of Arrival: New York
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States
Ship Name: Adele

but, looking at the hand-written list, I'm not sure about "Nellis" but then I can't really make out an alternative. He was accompanied by a number of other Fournerats:
Albert age 3
Louis age 6
Victor age 10
Climence age 7 (female)

No, guys, that William Vesey is a Suffolk Veazey and our DNA does not match that family. The dates alone are enough to prove that for me.

Gregory, there are Daigles and Fourniers in the Veazey family in LA. Mostly they intermarried Cajuns with those names, though. You should be able to see the ones I entered....cuz!

Hi Marsha,

No, I was born in Winchester (same year as you). My first job was in Essex in 1978 and I moved to Suffolk in 1988.

In Winchester, there is a famous statue of Alfred the Great (loads of pictures if you search Google images). I probably walked right past it every week until I was about 15, never thinking that he was my great x 33 grandfather (possibly - there is a weak link in my tree!)

@Marsha

My understanding of Daigle name history. Corrections welcomed!

I understand that there are two distinct Daigle lines.

The Acadian Daigle line derives from a corruption of "D'Aigre" the surname given to "Oliver" from the village of Aigre. Born in 1643, he came to Port Royal, Acadia in 1663 where he married Marie Gaudet (1666). The name was corrupted to Daigle in the late 1700's during conflict with the British. Many D'Aigre/Daigle Acadians were deported, some to Louisiana, but that started around 1755 and therefore unlikely the Daigle family you are looking for.
A second Daigle family exists in Montreal. I know little of them, but I believe the Daigle name existed in France before they came to the "New World". That is probably the likely source for you; either direct from France or via Montreal.

Hope this helps.
Russ Varcoe
Daigle/Cyr families of Madawaska

Etienne is my direct descendant. They had Etienne I, II, III, IV, V all knights of France.

Wow. Thanks. This is a new one and probably related to another split line of Fournerat's in France. THe family is from Cote D'Or Region and Burgundy like Dijion and the central area of La Puissaye, Nevers, Auxerre etc.

I have a relative who piloted 747s for Air France that is the head of the geneological society in Yonne France who traces the name back to the 1300s but he still cannot find the connectino with my part of the family. Wierd. Another group of Fournerats is on the SOuthwestern Pyrennees area in Basque country on the coast, several fishermen of which Joel Fournerat Is the modern family patriarch. Cool stuff.

Thanks for your efforts.
I didn't know this Nellis gentleman.

Very good Thank you.
I have read similar accounts and may have something to add as time permits.

That's cool, Arthur, about Alfred the Great! And thanks, Russ, for the Daigle info. I hope one day I can return your favors, guys!

Thanks to all collaborators. This is an excellent means to share information and cross reference our personal family trees and help others with theirs. Many of you have great resource tools and research methods that I don't have and do say I appreciate ALL your efforts to build this global tree of interlaced families. It is really fun to find out family members far far removed who are interested in doing the same type of research. Everyone wants to know where they came from so it can help them get where they are going! lol.