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Anna Karlsdotter (Bonde) is listed in the Granfelt fran Dal - Mörner af Tuna, Volume 2, page 196 as the dotter of King Karl Knutsson Bonde. = Author Johan GABRIEL Anrep

Anrep is primarily known for the book series Svenska adels ättartaflor, which was published in four volumes between 1858 and 1864 and was the first broad compilation of the history of the Swedish noble families and the prevailing standard work until Gustaf Elgenstierna's significantly more detailed and source-critical work in the 1920s and 1930s.

Anrep has faced a lot of criticism in modern times for its lack of source criticism and citations.

Anrep har fått utstå en hel del kritik i modern tid för bristen på källkritik och källhänvisningar.

Den moderna släktforskningens grundare
Av Vincent Eldefors 12 september, 2018

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A's name is also connected with "Swedish nobility genealogy", a monumental work and, apart from Messenius' "Theatrum nobilitatis", the first real family tree published in this country. It is, as is well known, the original genealogies kept at the knights' house in print, arranged in tabular form; but otherwise with almost all their errors and imperfections retained. Because of this, the work has often been underestimated. However, no one realized better than the publisher himself how incorrect a large part of the information he had printed was, but he was bound by the restrictive conditions set by the knights' house management for permission to print the pedigrees.

In the end, however, he was forced to bow to the knights' house management and have the Lilliehöök genealogies reprinted (D. 2, pp. 709–724), although in a note he explicitly reserved his position on the changed information.

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Anrep, Svenska adelns ättar- taflor- Anbytarforum -

It is very unfortunate that Anrep is coming out as public domain, considering how flawed it is. When it was produced, Marck von W?rtemberg's genealogical tables from the beginning of the 19th century were the main basis, so for certain content, the research situation is at least 200 years old.

Source criticism is not in high demand anymore, but what is on the internet is by definition true. If 1,000 people have written the same thing, it also immediately becomes 1,000 times truer. The fact that everyone just copied each other is of course uninteresting in the context. This means that we now once again have to start fighting against the same happy genealogies that have previously passed review in AF and, at best, been dismissed on objective grounds.

We will therefore once again be able to read in printed form that Thord i Byr is said to have lived in the time of King Eric the Conqueror, been baptized in 992 and lived at Sko in Upland, but now freely available online! UGH and SUCK!!

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In a family tree, made by the famous Herostratic researcher Ivan Jäderlund, there is an Anna Karlsdotter, daughter of Karl Knutsson Bonde and Kristina of Raseborg. This Anna is said to have been married to Håkan Svensson in Vånga, a chieftain in Västerås around 1450.
This Anna Karlsdotter is conspicuous by her absence in all the genealogical encyclopedias I have looked at, but is she the one haunting again?

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As is well known, there are a lot of previously unknown and, for genealogical expertise, illegitimate children of our kings. It is perhaps more reassuring to place the incident in the Middle Ages - we all know how few sources there are, how uncertain the material that does exist is, and so we always have the possibility of small picturesque outbursts of creative imagination.

Well, it is probably not the Jäderlund invention that is haunting, but the source is probably elsewhere. Elgenstierna has her (vol. II p. 735a) with the note that she was said to be King Karl Knutsson's illegitimate daughter, but without any source reference. It would probably be wise to consult older genealogical tables. The bibliography in Kumlien's article on KK in SBL XX gives nothing at a quick glance, but it is about 25 years old at this point.

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