Capt Robert David Gill - Source for mother?

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Capt Robert David Gill is my 7th great grandfather.

Wikitree has no maiden name for her and others call her Sarah Ann Gill (born Duncan)

Changed her name to Duncan.
Still looking for more info on her.
I removed him from the American Rev Soldiers Project--- I do not see anywhere that he fought and he may have been conflated with a DAR of similar name when I added him

https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/g/i/l/David-V-Gill-MO/WEBSITE-0001/UH...
says COOPER and adds different children

Robert David Gill (b. Abt. 1720, d. 1804)
Robert David Gill (son of John Gill and Sarah Duncan) was born Abt. 1720 in Lurgan, Clanbrassil,Amagh, Ireland, and died 1804 in Chester,South Carolina.He married ElenorCooper.
More About Robert David Gill:
Burial: July 02, 1804, Fishing Creek Pr,Chester,South Carolina.
Children of Robert David Gill and ElenorCooper are:
+George Gill, b. February 15, 1753, Lurgan,Armagh,Ireland, d. December 02, 1833, Maury,County,Tennesse.
Thomas Gill, b. 1744, d. September 28, 1808.
+Jane Gill, b. 1749.
+Robert Gill Jr., b. Abt. 1752, Lancaster,P,A., d. September 24, 1786, Camden,South Carolina.
Margaret Gill, b. 1751.
George Gill Jr., b. 1753, d. December 02, 1833.
James Gill, b. April 14, 1755, d. August 25, 1809.
+John Gill, b. 1756, Pennsylvania, d. 1790, South Carolina.
Elenor Gill, b. 1757, d. June 02, 1817.
Archibald Gill, b. January 16, 1757, S. C., d. October 12, 1803, S. C..
+Mary Gill, b. October 1758, Pennsylvania, d. January 29, 1841, South Carolina.
Nancy Gill, b. 1759.
Janet Gill, b. 1762.
Abraham Gill, b. Abt. 1765, d. August 20, 1815.
George Gill, b. July 13, 1775, d. March 11, 1848.
William Gill, b. 1776, d. March 03, 1848.
Hannah Gill, b. 1785, d. 1863.
Isaac Newton Gill, b. 1776, d. 1834.
Joseph Gill, b. October 31, 1789, d. March 01, 1855.

https://sciway3.net/clark/gill/fishingcreekold.html
"York-Chester, Fishing Creek, South Carolina Gills

Members of this family were so called "Scots-Irish" in NJ 1757-61, PA 17541764, and removed to Fishing Creek, now Chester County, SC 1766 or 1767.

George Gill, Sr., born c<1693 died>1740 nfi (he is not documented to my knowledge only Hendleman claims him)"

Gives children of
George Gill, Sr., born c<1693 died>1740 nfi:

Wm. Gill 1714->1788 b.Edinburgh nfi
John Gill 1715-1797 b.Edinburgh Sarah Duncan I, NJ,PA,SC
Robt.David Gill 1720-1804 Chester Elinor Cooper 1721-1801 10 childr
James Gill? <1721-1758 PA, VA. Augusta Co.,VA
Ellen Gill 1725-<1790 Hugh Cooper 1721-1801
George Gill 1740-1795 1st Susannah Kelsey 2nd Mary, his widow

Ellen Gill 1725-<1790 Hugh Cooper 1721-1801

Hugh T. Cooper, Sr. here on Geni m. Ellen Cooper
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I guess they got Robert's wife Kelsey/Kelso confused for Cooper?

At Wikitree, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Gill-402 ,
there is a comment posted by a direct descendant of Hugh which says:
I am a direct descendent of Hugh Cooper and do not believe the note below pertains to the Hugh Cooper I am related to. Hugh came to the U.S. with Mary Kelsey Cooper, his wife, in the 1700s, long after the date of the noted land transfer. While one particular genealogist wrote a book on Hugh Cooper, and maintained that an "Ellen of Scotland" was the wife of Hugh Cooper, there is no documentary proof of this. This, however, has caused great confusion and consternation of Hugh's descendants and genealogists for years. I believe the confusion lies in the fact that Mary Kelsey's sister married a Gill and her name was Elinor (Ellen) Gill. Mary and Elinor Gill lived together with Mary and Hugh's children following their divorce.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Cooper-467:
Biography
Hugh Cooper, a weaver by occupation, came to America with his wife and five children from Northern Ireland, about 1760. Settling in Baskin Ridge, Sommerset County, New Jersey.

Hugh, the earliest ancestor of whom we have any knowledge, was a weaver from county Armagh, Ulster, Northern Ireland. Armagh is a small county of some three hundred and seventy square miles, lying about thirty miles southwest of Belfast. The county is known for its fine linen weaving, its principal occupation, and as a renowed seat of literature and theology. Some say it was founded by St. Patrick, others doubt it.

No passenger lists of ships to America have been found with the name of Hugh Cooper, so we do not know the exact date he arrived in America. It is the opinion of the compiler that he came about 1757. A grandson wrote that "he came with most of his near relations", but unfortunately he did not name them except Hugh Cooper's brother-in-law, Robert Gill.

Family tradition is that the Cooper family knew William Penn, and that he had invited them to join him in America. Hugh Cooper may have had Quaker learning for although he belonged to the Presbyterian Church in South Carolina, neither he nor his children owned slaves even though their assets were ample to have affored them.

The Cooper Bible records show that Hugh Cooper, Weaver, was born in Ireland in 1720 and married in 1745. We do know that the Cooper, Gill and Pagan families were closely associated and intermarried.

Hugh Cooper was approximately thirty-five to forty years old when he brought his family to America. He had five children, three boys and two girls.

Hugh Cooper first settled in New Jersey as did this brother-in-law, Robert Gill. This is verified by Bible records and letters although we were unable to prove it through search of the New Jersey records. There were other Coopers and Gills; among these were brother-in-law Robert Gill, Col. John Mills (1757-1795) and brother inlaw Samuel Kelsey.. How long Hugh Cooper remained in New Jersey is unknown, but believe he moved after his and mary's divorce. He had 5 children with Mary Kelsey: Robert, Elizabeth, Janie, John and James.

Note
Note: @NI16092@
@NI16092@ NOTEYork County, Virginia
Records 1665 - 1672
Abstracted and Compiled by Benjamin B. Weisiger III 1987
page 73
Henry White and Mary White of Maston Parish, York Co., to Hugh Cooper of
same, surrenders rights to within bill of sale. 9 April 1666
Wit: Paul Johnson, Thomas Taylor
Signed: Henry (H) White, Mary (M) White
Recorded 25 June 1769
THE FOLLOWING IS A POSTING BY CHUCK GIBSON ON THE COOPER-L ROOTSWEBMAILING LIST DATED 10-7-1998
"Mary - b. about 1722, probably in Northern Ireland. She came to America with her husband Hugh COOPER, weaver, and family about 1760, settling first at Basking Ridge, Somerset Co., NJ. In announcement in the New York Mecury in Nov. 1762, Hugh states that Mary had left him. Hugh moved to Chester Co.,SC before Jan. 1722 when he purchased 300 acres of land on the South Fork of Fishing Creek from Samuel PORTER. Mary married first about 1745, Hugh COOPER (1720-1793), and they were divorced by Nov. 1762. Mary, with her children by Hugh COOPER, moved to PA to be close to her sister Elinor GILL.
Mary married second about 1763 James Matthew AMBERSON. Mary and Matthew resided in Rockingham Co.,NC until after 1793,then moving to York Co.,S.C.

Children of Mary and Matthew:
William Hamilton (1765-1831) married Frances STEWART (1774-1850); Jane 1767-1831 married #1 James NICHOLS(1760-1795),and #2 William ARDREY (1765-1831); Nancy Agnes (1769-1853) married William JONES (1760-1798); Margaret (1771-1857) married Hugh WHITESIDE (1765-1827); and

Matthew (b. 1773).
Elinor - Resided in PA prior to moving to SC. Married Robert GILL, Sr.
Children: Robert married his first cousin Elizabeth KELSO, daughter of
Samuel KELSO and Susannah MILLS; and Eleanor married her first cousin Samuel KELSO, Jr., son of Samuel KELSO and Susannah MILLS.
Import of buddy.GED on 04 May 2011.

"Robert married his first cousin Elizabeth KELSO, daughter of
Samuel KELSO and Susannah MILLS;"

"and Eleanor married her first cousin Samuel KELSO, Jr., son of Samuel KELSO and Susannah MILLS."

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These relationships are not in Geni

This is Susannah Mills Susannah Kelsey
and daughter Elizabeth
Elizabeth Gill
and her husband Robert Robert Harvey Gill

and Susannah's son Samuel Samuel Kelsey, Jr. and his wife Eleanor Eleanor Kelsey

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