הדסה,אשת ר' חיים HEILPRIN (Halpern), בתו של ר' בנימין וואלף הלפרין - Two different fathers were attached to her

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As far as I know her father was:
R' Benjamin Wolf Heilprin, ABD Chelm, Apatow and Lublin

On 22.9 profiles were merged by

Victor Finogenov

And I think as a result two different fathers were added to her and two different mothers were added to her

Haim Katz - Hachoen Wartski,

I have undone the merges done by Victor in error.

Please have a look at it and see if everything is correct.

Kevin

Kevin Lawrence Hanit

Thank you very much!

Regarding her mother's identity, I currently have no information.
Rabbi Ze'ev Wolf was married twice, his second wife was the daughter of
Rabbi David HaLevi Segal, "Turei Zahavf" (TuZ/TaZ)

I think her mother was his daughter, but I'm not sure...if anyone has any information, I'd be very happy

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Thanks for the correction, I let it be so because there has already been some confusion. However, now it doesn't look much better - the children of Haim R' Abraham "Haims" Heilprin of Lublin have 2 sets of parents.

Hadasa Romaner Wife of Reb Haim of Lublin Heilprin and Hadasa - it's clearly the same person. I only doubted whether her father was Meir or Benjamin Wolf. I suppose these profiles should be united again and attached only to Meir as her father, in order to avoid further mistakes.

The main cause of this error: if 1st wife, Meir Heilprin was a sister of Mrs. Benjamin Heilpren and their father was TuZ, then Meir must certainly be the son of the unknown 1st wife of Benjamin Wolf (absent on Geni) and possibly a half-brother of Hadasa (in this case also his wife's niece). It's the most suitable version, and certainly Meir didn't marry his aunt, as it's represented now in the tree.

Victor Finogenov,

Please let us know what changes still need to be made to get it correct.

Kevin

Kevin Lawrence Hanit
Victor Finogenov

I will try to explain as much as I can maybe this will give another point of view on the subject:

In almost all rabbinic literature it is written that The Kozker Rebbe was a descendant of:
Rabbi Benjamin Ze'ev Wolf Romaner, ABD Zmigrad, "Ir Binyamin"

According to Naftali Vokstein's opinion (and I found one source that supports this theory): In the same cemetery two people named Rabbi Chaim were buried, according to this theory a mistake was made in the identification and they added The Kozker Rebbe as a descendant of
Rabbi Benjamin Ze'ev Wolf Romaner, ABD Zmigrad, "Ir Binyamin"

Through his grandson Rabbi Chaim
After a lot of research I did on the subject, I found that there were indeed two people buried by the name of Rabbi Chaim in the same cemetery, and they were cousins, both were descendants of
רבי שמואל,הדרשן זצ"ל

The Kozker rebbe is his descendant but not in the way that is written in many books, but, my great (3rd) grandmother

Rbzn. Chaya Tauba Morgenstern, of Kotzk

She is a descendant of "Ir Binyamin" in this way
https://www.geni.com/path/%D7%94-%D7%94-%D7%94%D7%A6%D7%93%D7%A7%D7...

I hope this information contributes something to the existing confusions

And I'm interested in whether Jaccobe researched this branch, and if so, what did he write about it?

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