WHY HAVE OUR TREES BEEN SABOTAGED?!?!?!

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Hi
I am diving back into my tree this week. I am very furious over what I am seeing today!. Our tree ALL of our Royal Trees have been HIJACKED! They are saying that ALL the Major Nobles of Europe are ARAB!!!! They 100% DENY any Roman, Germanic, or Jewish roots. I have the correct trees from various times over the past several years as proof.. I thought Geni had a rule of NO profiles or connections to profiles before 500 A.D. Geni Admin cut off EVERYONES tree incl several Jewish ppl who are of the Line of David due to this policy a few years back. It is in the old forum topics. Then today I find that this site is being used to brainwash and gaslight us into thinking we all come from Arabs?!?!? OUTRAGEOUS!!

Addendum: I want to be crystal clear. RACISM This is blatant racism against EVERY paid Geni member. We devote a great deal of time and money to this site. We deserve better than a curator team that allows blatant racist, Muslimi-ficattion of our trees. This is an outright attempt to rewrite our European History. I am calling for the perps to be banned and the trees corrected. I for one have older copies of the tree from Geni going back to 2019 to prove my point

Thomas Merwin

William Smith alias Harris

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Aislinn

In order to correct or revert, could you find the profiles in your ancestry that looks to have incorrect / changed origins? I have different lines, so cannot see what you see.

Many thanks for calling to attention.

She's identified Private User as 99th gg (shows to me as 100th gg).

The profile was Added by: Private User on May 4, 2023

Aislinn notes that Geni does not support "Biblical" ancestry - Bible genealogies are isolated to their own project Biblical Tree, looked after by curator Shmuel-Aharon Kam (Kahn / שמואל-אהרן קם (קאן

So:

Is this profile a duplicate? Of which existing Geni profile?
If not a duplicate, what evidence supports its genealogy?
Is it truly ancestral to European nobility? If so, where, and with what support?

The biblical profile is Haidir (Hadad) أدد

linked as father of ‘Aram

The link to Spain is through Urraca which has a curator note: Parentage unknown. So, i will detach and lock that.

Oria (Aurea) Bint Ibn Musa Banu Qasi shows as my is your 37th great grandmother.

Testing my path to Haidir (Hadad) أدد again, i see a link to Europe through Velasquita Sánchez married to Mutarrif ibn Musa, of the Banu Qasi

this one is trickier, as we have some conflicting source information.

< Wikipedia > García Íñiguez of Pamplona

Sancho Garcés, father of Aznar Sánchez de Larraun — the second husband of his cousin Onneca Fortúnez — and probably of Velazquita, who married Mutarrif ibn Musa, of the Banu Qasi.[a]

a. Chronicler Ibn Hayyan says Velasquita was daughter of king García Íñiguez, but al-Udri names her father as Sancho, lord of Pamplona.[10] The latter has been preferred by historians.[9][11] This reference to Sancho as 'lord', along with a reference by Ibn Khaldun to a Sancho, 'governor of Pamplona and chief of the Basques' in 865, and an 867 charter that names 'king' Sancho as son-in-law of Galindo Aznárez I of Aragón, led Antonio Ubieto Arteta to propose that it was Sancho Garcés who ruled in Pamplona in the mid-to-late 860s, during at least part of the period that his brother, Fortún Garcés, was held captive in Córdoba.[12]

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/MOORISH%20SPAIN.htm#_Toc371931142

MUSA ibn Musa, son of MUSA ibn Fortun & his second wife, (-Tudela 26 Sep 862). … Musa had [seven] children by unknown [wives/concubines]: ....



Livio Scremin - if you can help in this testing, it would be much appreciated. it looks like some speculative genealogy has been added on the Spanish side since curator Private User did his work.

It looks like Cawley is using the alternate father for Velasquita, but accepts the marriage.

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NAVARRE.htm#AssonaIniguez

ii) [VELASQUITA Sánchez. Al-Udri records that "Mutarrif ibn Musa" married "Faliskita, hija de Sanyo, señor de Pamplona" and that he brought her to Huesca (which suggests that the marriage should be dated to [870/71] when Mutarif took control of Huesca) and had children by her[76]. The date of her marriage is consistent with Velasquita having been the daughter of Sancho, son of García I Iñíguez [King] of Pamplona, but this is not confirmed beyond all doubt by the passage in Al-Udri. m ([871/72]%29 as his [---] wife, MUTARIF ibn Musa, son of MUSA Ibn Musa & his wife --- (-crucified Córdoba 6 Sep 873).]

So, Velasquita Sánchez is an acceptable 37th great aunt, who shows no spurious Bible connection.


Haidir (Hadad) أدد is Mutarrif ibn Musa, of the Banu Qasi's 60th great grandfather!

https://www.geni.com/path/Mutarrif-ibn-Musa-of-the-Banu-Qasi+is+related+to+Haidir-%D8%A3%D8%AF%D8%AF?from=6000000003137948870&path_type=blood&to=6000000194301928865

This is rougher for me, as its an Arab genealogy. Who can help?



I'm going back to the European connects.

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