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I found a mess yesterday with the following profiles on Family Search and Geni reflected some of the same issues. Have been working on them ever since. Fortunately, I collaborate with the managers and I know they want them straight.

Family Search is probably the heart of the mess and it may start with

Celia Anne Johnston

Who was she really married to if she was married at all?

After several hours conversation last night with one of her closer relatives who is also perplexed now, here are possible theories:

1. Celia is the first wife of John Johnston and died in 1819 and then he married Mary "Molcie" Ann Johnston and went to Alabama.

2. Celia is not married to John Johnston at all, but to Capt. James Johnson which is what Find a Grave has. (and what my close relative source from last night had down at this time)

3. None of the above. Celia never married and has been confused with her niece Celia Floyd ( Celia (Floyd) (Floyd) (Johnson) Jolly ) who married four times - Hugh Floyd, Alan Johnson, Alfred Watts and Mr. Jolly. (Sorry Private User, I thought this Celia married thrice off the top of my head - she is a bit exhausting to keep up with.)

I am trying to find a copy of the will of James Rowland Floyd, I as what I have seen in excerpts mentions both James Johnston and children of John Johnston.

If anyone has any thoughts or ideas, please respond. I think al this point our best hope is getting the Geni platform straight and then working from here to fix the others.

Question: WHO did Capt. James Johnson marry?

Maybe he married [[6000000047096898953], maybe]. I am just not sure. Find a Grave links them

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/164108703/james_johnson

Celia Anne Johnston

I am not sure that Celia married at all. I need a copy of her father's will. I am pretty sure I have one somewhere.

Here is what I found on Celia, daughter of James Rowland Floyd from researcher Marty Grant

http://www.martygrant.com/genealogy/floyd/floyd-james-horry.htm

An undated (after ca 1850) summons for partition lists the estate of Elizabeth Floyd, wife of James Floyd, deceased and names the heirs. There were quite a few of them. (Horry County Court of Probate, Box 3, Number 29, thanks to Bob Delamorton for sharing this with me):

James Ellitt and wife plaintiff
vs
Dicey Lewis
Pugh Floyd
Lemuel Floyd
James Floyd
Henry Elliott and wife Elizabeth
.
Mary Newsom
~~~~~~I. Floyd & wife
Sarah Ann
out S James L. C. Floyd
Lewis H. Floyd
A. J. Floyd
Silvester Jolly & Wife
Washington Blackwell
& wife
out S Ann Floyd wife
of Brysell Floyd
& child
Celia Jane Floyd
.
John Johnstons children
*out S James Norton & wife Margaret
*Robert E. Price & wife Celia
*D. R. Anderson & wife Mary Ann
*out S Gilford Enzor & wife Elizabeth (Williams)
*out S Joseph Griffin & wife Jane
.
*Frederick Floyd's heirs
*Allen J. Floyd
*Herman P. Floyd
*Francis Floyd & Ann Eliza his wife
*Rosa Angelina Floyd
*Temperence Floyd
*Susannah Floyd
*Harriet Floyd

The first group are the living children of James and Elizabeth. The second group are the children of Lewis Floyd, deceased, though his name wasn't given on this list. The next group are the children of John Johnston and wife Celia Floyd. The last group is the children of Frederick Floyd. This is quite a nice record to have!

Celia Floyd was born ca 1774/84 or perhaps ca 1784. Census analysis shows that James Floyd had a daughter born ca 1774/84 with him on the 1800 census. This is probably Celia but it isn't a perfect match with her next census which shows her with her husband John Johnston aged 16-25 (c1784/94). If she was born in 1784 both records fit perfectly.
Celia seems to home with her parents for the 1790 census (no ages given), and seems to be home in 1800, aged 16-25 (1774/84).

She married John Johnston (aka Johnson) before 1810 in Horry District. John was born ca 1784/1790. There were two men named John Johnston in Horry at the same time over the years, both born in the 1780's. There is plenty of room for confusion as to who was who. They used "Sr" and "Jr" to distinguish themselves. I think the older one is the one who married Celia Floyd, but I'm not 100% sure. (Note that the author is also a Horry County Johnston researcher.)

John Johnston is listed on the 1810 census in Horry. There was only one John on this record. He is next door to his brother-in-law Lewis Floyd.

1810 census analysis (based on available evidence): (Explanation of this census)

1810 Horry Dist., SC pg 144 John Johnston 10100-10100-0-5
Analysis:
1 Male(s) 16-25 (1784-1794) John Johnston (1784/90)
1 Male(s) 0-9 (1800-1810) Son?
1 Female(s) 16-25 (1784-1794) Celia (Floyd) Johnston (c1784) wife
1 Female(s) 0-9 (1800-1810) Margaret Johnston (c1810) daughter

It appears that Celia Floyd Johnston died ca 1818 to ca 1820 in Horry. John Johnston married again (or so it seems) before 1820. I don't know the name of his second wife.

John Johnston "Senior" is listed on the 1820 census in Horry. Strangely the other John isn't listed, but he was probably around or there would have been no need to use the suffix.

1820 census analysis (based on available evidence): (Explanation of this census)

1820 Horry Dist., SC pg 136/11 John Johnston Senior 000010-50100, slaves=7301-4301
Analysis:
1 Male(s) 26-44 (1775-1794) John Johnson (1784/90)
1 Female(s) 16-25 (1794-1804) Mrs. Johnson (1794/1800), 2nd wife
5 Female(s) 0-9 (1810-1820) 1-Margaret Johnson (c1810) daughter
2-Celia Johnson (c1815) daughter
3-Mary Ann Johnson (c1815) daughter
4-Elizabeth Johnson (1810/20) daughter
5-Jane Johnson (c1819) daughter
Two John Johnstons were listed on the 1830 census in Horry. Neither used a suffix this time. The one on page 267 seems to be ours. Both listings are given below just in case.

1830 census analysis (based on available evidence): (Explanation of this census)

1830 Horry Dist., SC pg 259 John Johnston 1111001000000-0100100000000
1830 Horry Dist., SC pg 267 John Johnston 1001001000000-3222010000000
Slaves=653010-733100
Analysis:
1 Male(s) 40-49 (1780-1790) John Johnson (1784/90)
1 Male(s) 15-19 (1810-1815) Son? (1810/15) * not with family in 1820
1 Male(s) 0-4 (1825-1830) Son? (1825/30)
1 Female(s) 30-39 (1790-1800) Mrs. Johnson (1794/1800) 2nd wife
2 Female(s) 15-19 (1810-1815) 1-Celia Johnson (c1815) daughter
2-Mary Ann Johnson (c1815) daughter
2 Female(s) 10-14 (1815-1820) 1-Elizabeth Johnson
2-Jane Johnson (c1819) daughter
2 Female(s) 5-9 (1820-1825) 1-Daughter?
2-Daughter?
3 Female(s) 0-4 (1825-1830) 1-Daughter?
2-Daughter?
3-Daughter?

Both John Johnstons were listed on the 1840 census in Horry:

1840 census analysis (based on available evidence): (Explanation of this census)

1840 Horry Dist., SC pg 342 John Johnston Jr 1200000100000-0011100000000
Slaves=000000-000010
1840 Horry Dist., SC pg 341 John Johnston Sr 0210001200000-0021001000000
Free colored persons=100000-000000
Slaves=283000-740310
Analysis:
1 Male(s) 50-59 (1780-1790) John Johnson (1784/90)
1 Male(s) 40-49 (1790-1800) Brother? Brother-in-law?
1 Male(s) 10-14 (1825-1830) Son?
2 Male(s) 5-9 (1830-1835) 1-Son?
2-Son?
1 Female(s) 40-49 (1790-1800) Mrs. Johnson (1794/1800), 2nd wife
1 Female(s) 15-19 (1820-1825) Daughter?
2 Female(s) 10-14 (1825-1830) 1-Daughter?
2-Daughter?
John may have died before 1850 for I didn't find him on that census. There is a John L. Johnston (c1787) in Horry, but I believe that is the younger of the two Johns.

I have not yet found who John Johnston's 2nd wife was, nor who any of their children were. His children with Celia Floyd are named in the James and Elizabeth Floyd estate records as noted earlier.
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Now the will has an excerpt mentioning James Johnson so that may be the confusion on FAG.

I believe that John Johnston left after 1840 and moved to Alabama with 2nd wife Mary Molsie Hodges.

His marker indicates he died in 1853 in Barbour County. She is there also.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/30018244/mary_ann_johnston

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/30017981/john_jefferson_johnston

I don't know of a source for John Johnston's middle name. I wish that people wouldn't just populate that field for no reason.

I've done what I can to straighten these out with sources. Hopefully, we can keep them straight.

If there are MPs needed, tag the profiles.

Erica Howton, please MP the following for disambiguation purposes. Let me know if there is anything else that I can do on them.

Celia Anne Johnston

Celia Anne Johnston

Celia Patience Price

Celia Jane Floyd
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Mary "Molcie" Ann Johnston

John Johnston

Capt. James Johnson

I am trying to find the correct family to put with Capt. James Johnson. It may take a while, but he seems to be over in Marion District. Will see what I can dig up.

I don't think we need to really lock them, but a good banner with the notes. I;ve tried to put enough on them. Thanks so much for anything that can be done.

MPs done.

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