Mary Nancy Shipp Broaddus

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yesterday at 12:32 PM

I question who is the Mary Nancy Shipp? She is not listed as a
child in the family history of President Truman at Truman's Library.

Children listed are: Richard, Gideon, Edmund, Ann, Lucy, Lemuel, John, Ewell, Martha and Frances.

I have not found her listed in any record for Thomas and Rachel Grant Shipp.

I posted to Mary Nancy Broaddus a record from the family history of the Broaddus
family. Mary Nancy maiden name is listed as SHIPLEY, NOT SHIPP.

ALSO POSTED WAS THE PAGE FROM THE TRUMAN LIBRARY THAT LIST THE
CHILDREN OF THOMAS SHIPP AND RACHEL GRANT, AND MARY NANCY'S NAME
IS NOT LISTED. THIS PAGE WAS DELETED BY SOMEONE.

Today at 3:38 AM
Today at 4:00 AM

Should we undo merges maybe so the wife of John Broaddus is different from the wife of Hughes Bowles?

Tom Dowling tree (unsourced)

https://gw.geneanet.org/tdowling?lang=en&pz=timothy+michael&nz=dowl...

Mary Shipp
Born in 1763 - Caroline Co., VA
Deceased about 1840, aged about 77 years old

Parents
Thomas Shipp 1727-1777
Rachel Grant ca 1731-

Married November 12, 1783, Goochland Co., VA, to Hughes Bowles, born February 7, 1760 - Virginia, deceased in 1808 - Madison Co., VA aged 48 years old (Parents : M Gideon Bowles 1735-1789 & F Charity Ann Hughes 1738-1799)

Children

  • John Broaddus 1789-1837 Married January 19, 1807, Bourbon Co., KY, to Sarah Sally Conn 1789-1864

Married to John Broaddus, Cpt. , born about 1760 - Caroline Co., VA, deceased in 1829 - Madison Co., KY aged about 69 years old (Parents : M John Broaddus /1740-ca 1799 & F Frances Pryor 1744-1807)

Children

  • Nancy Bowles /1788-1835 Married May 19, 1808, Madison Co., KY, to Henry Porter 1778-1868

So that sure doesn’t work.

Today at 4:08 AM

https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/sources/LC5M-JFP

"Virginia Marriages, 1785-1940", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XRZD-82Z : 29 January 2020), Mary Ship in entry for Hughes Bowles, 1783.

"Virginia, Vital Records, 1715-1901", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:68Y4-DV48 : Thu Oct 26 06:10:31 UTC 2023), Entry for Hughes Bowles and Mary Ship, 12 Nov 1783.

Name Hughes Bowles
Sex Male
Spouse's Name Mary Ship
Spouse's Sex Female
Event Type Marriage
Event Date 12 Nov 1783
Event Place Goochland, Virginia, United States
Event Place (Original) Goochland, Virginia

Today at 6:09 AM

OK, I think I understand now.

Mary Shipley married Edward Broaddus.
Mary Broaddus He’s person # 1 in the Broaddus Book,

https://books.google.com/books?id=o4tBAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA177#v=onepage&q...

Their children included John Broaddus - person # 4 - who married Frances Broaddus They had 11 children, including John ll - person # 23.

https://books.google.com/books?id=o4tBAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA178#v=onepage&q...

John Broaddus, Jr Married 1) Sarah Broaddus 2) NANCY Shipp

Page 182 https://books.google.com/books?id=o4tBAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA182#v=onepage&q...

He died after 1829 in Madison County.
—-

The Shipp Book calls her MARY “Mollie”.

Page 194

www.geni.com/media/proxy?media_id=6000000199571152840&size=large

Source: "The Shipp Family Genealogy", Shipp, Ralph D., Gateway Press, Baltimore, 1985. Pg 194. < GoogleBooks >

But that may be wrong, because Mary Shipp got married to Hughes Bowles on 12 Nov 1783.

"Virginia, Vital Records, 1715-1901", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:68Y4-DV48 : Thu Oct 26 06:10:31 UTC 2023), Entry for Hughes Bowles and Mary Shipp, 12 Nov 1783.

And he died in 1809 in Kentucky. So she would have married again after 1809 and not 1783.

So I’m wondering if NANCY like the original book is more accurate and she really was a sister.

Today at 7:44 AM

Separated out Mary Bowles of Goochland. The other Mary was of Caroline County.

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