Pieter Casparszen Mabie, 'van Naarden' - Disputed origins

Wow. Erica, this is great. Geni shows Pieter Casparszen and Sergeant Gaspard Mabille as my 8th and 9th ggrandfathers, respectively. The part of the Sergeant Gaspard Pietersen Mabille overview that caught my eye was the speculation of a Scottish connection.
"I think the path that might yield the correct pedigree is that this Mabille line was possibly a branch of the Mabie family that moved from Scotland to Holland during the upheaval of the Protestant Reformation when many English and Scots moved to Holland during that turbulent era. There were also a great many economic opportunities in Holland at that time, with the Dutch colonies; and the Dutch were ahead of the rest of Europe in adopting new financial methods that presaged capitalism. The Scottish were amongst the very first to learn these financial methods from the Dutch, and the torch of financial methods was passed to the Scottish, to allow Glasgow to become the colonial trading center of the world shortly thereafter. There was considerable exchange between the Scottish, who learned from the Dutch entrepreneurs, and the Scottish had a close and deep association with the French nobility, who were often one and the same."

Wondering if you view this a pure speculation. In any event the connection between Dutch, Scottish, and French was entirely unknown to me and, if true, really fascinating.

Hi, I just happened to be looking at one of my sources last night. I can't remember how I originally got to it but had it saved on my computer. Perhaps it has already been used as a source here. Anyway the link is http://dorothystewart.net/genealogy/mabee-family-tree/. I myself had been thinking Mabille (the original name) had been a Huguenot name because there are families of UEL's associated with each other (i.e. marriages etc) who are also of that origin, like the Secords (Sicard), who are also associated with New Rochelle, NY, and those names are both listed on a monument in New Rochelle erected to identify Huguenot family names associated with its history. But I also have in my records that even though the original spelling is Mabille, that it's Dutch. Not sure where I got that, but all the family members prior to births in New Amsterdam, going back to 1575, seem to have been born in the Netherlands, except for the matriarch who was definitely French (according to the genealogy I linked you to).

One of the sources linked to within that source I put in, in my previous reply, does agree with the non-Mabille origin of the name Mabee/Mabie/etc., and with a British origin of the name. Here it is: https://maybeesociety.org/name.html. Interesting!

Very interesting stuff. Still finding the connection between the Mabees and the Secords a bit of a funny coincidence but perhaps there were Mabees and Mabilles in the same area in New Rochelle, NY. That must have caused a little confusion!

As a born and bred New Yorker, I share your feelings, Erica. And I tend to agree it can be traced to the Dutch influence there. The Dutch focus on trade over cultural identity reminds me of the way my daughter approached playmates when she was very young: What's your name? Oh, never mind, let's play dress-up."
I've found the only drawback to coming from NYC is that when you take that easy acceptance of difference elsewhere, you sometimes run into a very different attitude!