Possible match with Izjaslav Ingvarevich of Rurik Dynasty

Started by Kacper Szeptucho on Saturday, August 20, 2022
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Iziaslav Ingvarevich Rurikid

Grand Duke of Novgorod Rurik Sigurdsson

Here is what Mytrueancestry website says :
My match with
Izjaslav Ingvarevych Prince of Dorogobuzh Rurik Dynasty 1223 AD
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mtDNA: H7 Y-DNA: R1a1a1b1a1a1c1h (YP592)
Shared DNA: (Sample Quality: 83)
3 SNP chains (min. 60 SNPs) / 7.57 cM
Largest chain: 110 SNPs / 7.57 cM
Genetic distance: 8.338

Your raw DNA is 7% closer than other matching users

Gleb Svyatoslavich Prince of Novgorod Rurik Dynasty is also a match, but only via genetic distance. Genetic distance is 8.877

Mytrueancestry recently added two new samples. King Ladislaus I of Hungary and Croatia and King Bela III Arpad Dynasty. I have matches with both but via genetic distance. King Ladislaus genetic distance is 15.228 and King Bela III genetic distance is 16.361. The reason as to why I am mentioning these matches is because the mother of King Bela III was Euphrosyne of Kyiv of the Rurik Dynasty.

I would appreciate if anyone could try and help me find the link between myself and Izjaslav Ingvarevich (if it exists) or help me and tell me how I should go about finding this link. It could also be possible that I am related to the Rurik Dynasty further down the line/via another branch since my DNA match with Izjaslav is rather small in comparison to other Mytrueancestry users.

I would like to thank you in advance for any help provided.
- Kacper

I just wonder who's taken a DNA sample from a person who died in early 13th century. Is it reliable? And how TRUE this ancestry might be? If you find a way from your profile to the global Geni tree, you'll certainly find a path to Rurik and others -- everyone is related -- but the path may be really long and not direct. E.g. Geni currently shows 38 steps between me and Rurik and 36 steps between me and prince Izjaslav Ingvarevich :)

Hi Denis...
Rurik is my 32nd great grandfather, and Grand Prince of Kiev Izjaslav Ingvarevich is my 28th great uncle...both paths are long, and direct.
Cheers,
Susan

I do not think that someone did take a DNA sample of Izjaslav Ingvarevych Prince of Dorogobuzh Rurik Dynasty, but if you have enough DNA samples of living persons you can caculate or construct a virtual DNA profile.

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It's hard to be sure of anything that far back, the sample must be good, the bones must be reliable to be of the right person in question, the one doing the test must avoid to contaminate the result, it's a long chain that needs to be unbroken.

Taking sample on living people is also not a guarantee that it reflects reality, for every generation there's 1% chans that another man was the father than the one registered.
By crossmatching other individuals (relatives) it's possible to determind one common ancestor in the line back in time, and also to find people who didn't have the correct stipulated fathers,
By time, and due to testings, it will be easier to draw conclusions, about what is most likely right, but 100% sure, it will probably never be. In order to be sure, we would have to test the bones from the 1300's century people, father, son, and grandson,have them fit eachother, and be of such a good criteria that the conclusion is true.

Example of Swedish test of Birger Jarl.

Jarl Birger Magnusson (Folkungaätten)

Birger Jarl och hans son Erik ska ha tillhört Y-haplogrupp I1 (M253), vilket ~40% av nuvarande svenska män bär på.

https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birger_jarl
https://fof.se/artikel/2012/7/jarlen-jagas-med-dna-teknik/
https://www.uu.se/nyheter/artikel/?id=168&typ=artikel
https://www.arkeologiforum.se/forum/index.php?topic=4469.0

Right... Yaroslav the Wise and his daughter Anna connect us all throughout Europe and beyond :)

Birger jarl is my fifth cousin 20 times removed.

Iziaslav Ingvarevich Rurikid is my second cousin 22 times removed.

Рюрик, князь Новгородский is my 30th great grandfather.

Prince of Kiev Volodymyr Svyatoslavich Рюрикович is my 27th great grandfather.

Olá Joaquim,

Geni shows you are as far from me as Rurik :) ... via D. Pedro I do Brasil

Olá Denis!

Check your e-mail please!

Jarl Birger Magnusson (Folkungaätten) is my 21st great grandfather
Iziaslav Ingvarevich Rurikid is my fourth cousin 19 times removed.
Rurik is my 28th great grandfather.
You
→ Elza Dzelvite (Grahpe,Grāpe)
your mother → Jahn Grahpe
her father → Baron Arnold Julius von Vietinghoff-Riesch
his father → Juliane Charlotte Lulla von Vietinghoff
his mother → Helene Gertrude von Krüdener
her mother → Gustav Georg von Völckersahm
her father → Sophia Elisabeth von Mengden
his mother → ObtLt., Frhr Magnus Gustav von Mengden, von Altenwoga
her father → Gustav v. Mengden Frhr. v. Altenwoga
his father → Gertrud von Mengden Frfr. von Altenwoga
his mother → Jürgen von Rosen
her father → Kersten von Rosen
his father → Kersten III von Rosen auf Hochenrosen
his father → Jürgen l von Rosen
his father → N.N. von Tiesenhausen
his mother → Bartholomeus von Tiesenhausen, of Kokenhausen
her father → Johann von Tiesenhausen
his father → Princess Sofia von Hoya, a Princess of Polotsk and Countess of Hoya
his mother → Sophia Wetseke
her mother → Rex Wetseke de Kukenoys, King of Koknese
her father → Boris I Davydovich
his father → Dawid Polotski, Rurykowicz
his father → Sviatoslav of Vitebsk
his father → Vseslav of Polotsk
his father → Bryachislav Izyaslavich of Polotsk
his father → Izyaslav of Polotsk
his father → Prince of Kiev Volodymyr Svyatoslavich Рюрикович
his father → Prince Sviatoslav, Rurikid
his father → ruler of Kievan Rus' Igor 'the Old'
his father → Rurik
his father

Izjislav is my 12 grandad,gleb is my 10 th removed grandad,catherine the great my 16th removed grandmum.

It says he is my
Iziaslav Ingvarevich Rurikid is your second cousin 25 times removed.

Tammy Lee zu Hone
You → William Marion Winebrenner
your father → Allen Francis Winebrenner
his father → William M Winebrenner
his father → Mary Elizabeth Winebrenner
his mother → Catherine Cooper
her mother → Adam Simon
her father → Barbara Simon
his mother → Barbara Rohrbough
her mother → Antoni Rueger, II
her father → Juditha Margaretha Rueger
his mother → Susanna Schaub
her mother → Johan Jakob Buser
her father → Jacob Buser
his father → Mathias Buser
his father → Hans Buser, III "der Canis"
his father → Margarete Buser, Prinzessin
his mother → Margarete von Anhalt-Zerbst, Kurfürstin zu Sachsen
her mother → Waldemar Vl von Anhalt-Zerbst, Fürst zu Anhalt-Köthen
her father → Georg I "der Ältere" von Anhalt-Zerbst, Fürst zu Anhalt-Dessau
his father → Sigismund I Fürst von Anhalt-Zerbst
his father → Johann II von Anhalt-Zerbst, Fürst
his father → Beatrix von Sachsen-Wittenberg, Fürstin zu Anhalt-Zerbst
his mother → Judith Askanier, Herzogin zu Sachsen-Wittenberg
her mother → Otto V, Markgraf von Brandenburg
her father → Beatrix von Brandenburg
his mother → Václav I "Jednooky" Přemyslid - von Böhmen, King of Bohemia
her father → Ottokar I Premysl, King of Bohemia
his father → Vladislav II Przemyslid
his father → Gertrud Princess Of Bohemia
his daughter → Ingvar of Kiev
her son → Iziaslav Ingvarevich Rurikid
his son
How would I check my DNA ?

My haplogroup L1029, specifically R-FT57863

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