Alfonso IX, king of Leon and Galicia - Why are you showing his partners?

Started by Private User on Monday, August 15, 2022
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I would like to know about my GGM his WIFE Berenguela 1 la Grande reina de Castila.

Alfonso IX, king of Leon and Galicia is my 25th great grandfather.
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You Ingrida Cinkmane (Dzelvite)
→ Elza Dzelvite (Grahpe,Grāpe)
your mother → Jahn Grahpe
her father → Baron Arnold Julius von Vietinghoff-Riesch
his father → Juliane Charlotte Lulla von Vietinghoff
his mother → Helene Gertrude von Krüdener
her mother → Bsse Helene Maria Esther von Völckersahm
her mother → Helene d'Orville von Löwenclau
her mother → Isaac d'Orville von Löwenclau
her father → Peter Friedrich d'Orville
his father → Pierre Peter d'Orville
his father → Samuel d'Orville
his father → Anne Godin, de Tampezo
his mother → Christophe Godin
her father → Isabeau Picot
his mother → François Picot
her father → François Picot
his father → Catherine de Licques
his mother → Gilles de Licques
her father → Lancelot de Lisques
his father → Florent de Lisques
his father → Marie de Chatillon
his mother → Marguerite de Dampierre
her mother → Isabelle de Brienne
her mother → Jean de Brienne, comte d'Eu
her father → Alphonse de Brienne, comte d'Eu
his father → Berenguela de León, emperatriz consorte de Constantinopla
his mother → Alfonso IX, king of Leon and Galicia
her father

Yeah, ironically Berenguela is my 23rd g-grandmother through their son, King Ferdinand, but the Calculator only reports that she's my 24th g-aunt. But this is likely only because her sister Blanche is also my 23rd g-grandma.

Afonso IX, rei de Leão is my 19th great grandfather.

Opal, Berenguela I la Grande, reina de Castilla was my 22nd great grandmother as well .. There's quite a bit written about her complicated life on her profile. It was a fascinating read if you haven't looked into it yet.

Alfonso is my 22nd great grandfather on my father's side.

Alfonso IX is my ancestor. And also Berenguela. It's totally normal to show the partners too. It's several generations ago. Not hurting feelings anymore.
Instead of this kind of questions, it's better to pray for all them.

Sometimes happens to have one grandmother and one mistress of her husband as our grandmother by other line too. Royals and nobles used to married each other during centuries.
Totally normal.

Private User read this:

Shadis, Miriam (2010). Berenguela of Castile (1180–1246) and Political Women in the High Middle Ages. Palgrave Macmillan. ISBN 978-0-312-23473-7

González, Julio (1960). El reino de Castilla en la época de Alfonso VIII. Vol. 3 vol. Madrid: CSIC

de la Cruz, Valentín (2006). Berenguela la Grande, Enrique I el Chico (1179–1246). Gijón: Ediciones Trea. ISBN 978-84-9704-208-6

Osma, Juan (1997). "Chronica latina regum Castellae". In Brea, Luis Charlo (ed.). Chronica Hispana Saeculi XIII. Turnhout: Brepols

After reading through the replies here, I think I have a better understanding of your intention than I did when I posted my initial comment yesterday.

Opal, is it your intention to make the point that his wife, Berenguela, should be the only rightful "spouse" listed?

Everyone who is descended from Alfonso IX, whether through his sanctioned marriage (which, btw, was also annulled by the pope because they were second cousins) or through other partners, is a rightful grandchild and has as much of an interest in knowing their lineage as those who comes through the bloodlines of the union with this wife. It would be historical erasure to not include them.

I couldn't have said it better,, Tina Flores, I also believe that all partners should be included for accuracy in genealogy, and for history. Maybe something should be included in the description, concerning the different partners, with citations

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