Adam de Newmarch - Newmarchs

Started by Erica Howton on Thursday, July 28, 2022
Problem with this page?

Participants:

Profiles Mentioned:

Showing all 14 posts

Craig Andrew Miles Writes:

I hope you dont mind me drawing this to your attention but no-one else seems too sure about what if anything to do about these 4 seemingly similar profiles of Adam De Newmarch, possibly of Wormersley

Sir NN de Newmarch, of Womersley

Adam de Novo Foro

Adam de Novo Mercato

Adam de Novo Mercato

The Novo Mercato or Newmarch family of Womersley is handled in Complete Peerage vol.9.

Pedigree of Sir Roger Newmarch, of Womersley is here:

Cokayne, George Edward, and Vicary Gibbs. 1936. The complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom: extant, extinct or dormant. Volume 9. “Moels to Nuneham,”. London: St. Catherine Pr. “Newmarch.” Page 542-548. < link >

But there’s another Newmarch family, as described here:

Newmarch, Geo F, and C H. Newmarch. The Newmarch Pedigree: Verified by Public Records, Authentic Manuscripts, and General and Local Histories. Cirencester [England: E. Baily, 1868. Internet resource. < GoogleBooks >

Here’s the top of the pedigree according to Medlands.

Adam de Novo Foro

From Medlands:

ADAM de Neufmarché, son of [WILLIAM de Waddon & his wife --- de Neufmarché] (-[1160/61]). The Complete Peerage suggests that Adam de Neufmarché was the same person as the unnamed son of William de Waddon who was recorded in 1130 as succeeding his [maternal] uncle[1753]. “Ada de Novoforo…” witnessed the undated charter which records that “Richardus de Builli…Ricardo filio Turgis” founded Roche abbey in Yorkshire[1754]. Pope Urban III confirmed donations to Roche abbey, Yorkshire, including the donation by “Adæ de Novo-foro”, dated 1186[1755].

—-

I think this us for Adam “The Genealogical Table” shows as Adam (son of Ralph) = Adelina, with 3 sons: William (m Isabel); Henry m ?; Adam m ?

www.geni.com/media/proxy?media_id=6000000186184348189&size=large

Looks like Medlands moved / updated their Newmarch page.

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/enguntlo.htm#_Toc64702030

NEUFMARCHE of YORKSHIRE

[Three] brothers:

  • 1. RALPH de Neufmarché ("Novo foro") (-before 1098). The Complete Peerage records that "Ralph Novi Fori" was among the witnesses of the charter dated 1088 which recorded the foundation of Blyth, Nottinghamshire by Roger de Bully[1452].
  • 2. PAYN de Neufmarché . The Complete Peerage records that "Paine de Novo Foro" donated land in Thurnscoe near Barnsley and in Doncaster to Blyth, for the souls of "his lord Roger de Bully, his brother Ralph", with the consent of "nepotis William", by charter dated to after 1098[1453].
  • 3. [--- de Neufmarché .] m ---. [Two] children:
    • a) WILLIAM de Neufmarché . The Complete Peerage records that "Paine de Novo Foro" donated land in Thurnscoe near Barnsley and in Doncaster to Blyth, for the souls of "his lord Roger de Bully, his brother Ralph", with the consent of "nepotis William", by charter dated to after 1098[1454]. same person as…? WILLIAM de Neufmarché (-before 1130). The 1130 Pipe Roll records "Wills de Waddona" accounting for "fil suus" having succeeded to the land of "Willi de Novo Mercato avunculi sui" in Northumberland[1455].
    • b) [--- de Neufmarché . Her parentage and marriage are confirmed by the 1130 Pipe Roll which records "Wills de Waddona" accounting for "fil suus" having succeeded to the land of "Willi de Novo Mercato avunculi sui" in Northumberland[1456]. m WILLIAM de Waddon, son of --- (-after 1130). William & his wife had [two] children:

As Medlands is most the most up to date source, we can use that as the main way to conform the tree; agreed?

Adam de Neufmarché Was not born in Wales, that’s the Bernard de Neufmarche branch.


Disambiguation

http://www.teachergenealogist007.com/2011/11/g25-23640758.html

  • From the 4/20-21/1264 record, this Adam is a baron of Yorkshire and Lincoln.
  • There are 3 different Adam’s contemporary:
    • (1) Adam s/o Henry de Neufmarche (d.bef.1240) & Denise de Tilly;
    • (2) Adam, married to Johanna, s/o John (d.1247) s/o Adam;
    • (3) Adam de Novo Mercato, steward of the King (1264-65).
  • 1 of them, or another Adam, died in 1290 leaving a wife Cicely.

I don’t think I’ve figured out all the Adams yet.

Showing all 14 posts

Create a free account or login to participate in this discussion