Leutharis I, duke of the Alemannians - The same person - Leutharis I and Leutfried ?

Started by Jari T. Nieminen on Tuesday, July 19, 2022
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Might these profiles be for the same person?
Leutharis I, duke of the Alemannians
Leutfrid, duke of the Alemannians

If you read Wikipedia article https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leutari_I , Leurati I (Leutharius I) had brother Butilino (Butilinus) - not a father-children relationship as now in this profile.
"Leutari I, (Leutharius / Λεύθαρις) was a Germanic leader known for having been, together with his brother Butilino (in the Greek sources: Βουτιλῖνος / Βουσελίνος; in the Latin ones: Butilinus / Buccellenus), in command of the contingent (Franco-Alamanno) invaded and sacked Italy in the years 553-554."

Also, time of death is the same in both profiles and place is matching with this profile
"Once in Ceneda, the current Vittorio Veneto, Leutari and the Alamanni would however have perished - as we shall see - due to a serious disease."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alamannia#Dukes_under_Frankish_suzera... ==> Leuthari I, before 552–554

Leutharis I, duke of the Alemannians is my 37th great grandfather.
You
→ Elza Dzelvite (Grahpe,Grāpe)
your mother → Jahn Grahpe
her father → Baron Arnold Julius von Vietinghoff-Riesch
his father → Juliane Charlotte Lulla von Vietinghoff
his mother → Helene Gertrude von Krüdener
her mother → Gustav Georg von Völckersahm
her father → Sophia Elisabeth von Mengden
his mother → ObtLt., Frhr Magnus Gustav von Mengden, von Altenwoga
her father → Gustav v. Mengden Frhr. v. Altenwoga
his father → Gertrud von Mengden Frfr. von Altenwoga
his mother → Jürgen von Rosen
her father → Kersten von Rosen
his father → Kersten III von Rosen auf Hochenrosen
his father → Jürgen l von Rosen
his father → N.N. von Tiesenhausen
his mother → Bartholomeus von Tiesenhausen, of Kokenhausen
her father → Johann von Tiesenhausen
his father → Hans von Tiesenhausen
his father → Hildegunde Buxhövden
his mother → Albert von Buxhoeveden, I
her father → Albert Graf von Jerichow
his father → Siegfried I av Orlamünde, Herzog
his father → Adalbert II, count of Ballenstedt.
his father → Matilda of Swabia
his mother → Gerberge of Burgundy
her mother → Conrad "the Peaceful", king of Burgundy
her father → Bertha of Swabia
his mother → Burchard II, duke of Swabia
her father → Burchard I, duke of Swabia
his father → Adalbert II, count in the Thurgau
his father → Adalbert I von Schwaben, Graf von Räthien & Thurgau
his father → Hunfrid Rathien, I, Count in Istria & in the Rathien
his father → Adelinde of Spoleto
his mother → Regarde of Bavaria
her mother → Gotfrid, duke of the Alemannians
her father → Leutharis III, duke of the Alemannians
his father → Uncilien, duke of the Alemannians
his father → Leutfried I, duke of the Alemannians
his father → Leutharis I, duke of the Alemannians
his father

Leutharis I, Herzog der Alemannen MP
Gender: Male
Birth: circa 500;Germany
Death: 554 (49-59);(Ceneda), Vittorio Veneto, Treviso, Veneto, Italy
Immediate Family:
Son of Leutfrid, duke of the Alemannians
Husband of Wilibalda of the Alemannians
Father of Butilin, duke of the Alemannians and Leutfried I, duke of the Alemannians
Added by: François-Régis Allouis on September 7, 2007
Managed by:Jan Meijnaerts and 39 others
Curated by:Jason Scott Wills
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Leutfrid, duke of the Alemannians is my 38th great grandfather.
You
→ Elza Dzelvite (Grahpe,Grāpe)
your mother → Jahn Grahpe
her father → Baron Arnold Julius von Vietinghoff-Riesch
his father → Juliane Charlotte Lulla von Vietinghoff
his mother → Helene Gertrude von Krüdener
her mother → Gustav Georg von Völckersahm
her father → Sophia Elisabeth von Mengden
his mother → ObtLt., Frhr Magnus Gustav von Mengden, von Altenwoga
her father → Gustav v. Mengden Frhr. v. Altenwoga
his father → Gertrud von Mengden Frfr. von Altenwoga
his mother → Jürgen von Rosen
her father → Kersten von Rosen
his father → Kersten III von Rosen auf Hochenrosen
his father → Jürgen l von Rosen
his father → N.N. von Tiesenhausen
his mother → Bartholomeus von Tiesenhausen, of Kokenhausen
her father → Johann von Tiesenhausen
his father → Hans von Tiesenhausen
his father → Hildegunde Buxhövden
his mother → Albert von Buxhoeveden, I
her father → Albert Graf von Jerichow
his father → Siegfried I av Orlamünde, Herzog
his father → Adalbert II, count of Ballenstedt.
his father → Matilda of Swabia
his mother → Gerberge of Burgundy
her mother → Conrad "the Peaceful", king of Burgundy
her father → Bertha of Swabia
his mother → Burchard II, duke of Swabia
her father → Burchard I, duke of Swabia
his father → Adalbert II, count in the Thurgau
his father → Adalbert I von Schwaben, Graf von Räthien & Thurgau
his father → Hunfrid Rathien, I, Count in Istria & in the Rathien
his father → Adelinde of Spoleto
his mother → Regarde of Bavaria
her mother → Gotfrid, duke of the Alemannians
her father → Leutharis III, duke of the Alemannians
his father → Uncilien, duke of the Alemannians
his father → Leutfried I, duke of the Alemannians
his father → Leutharis I, duke of the Alemannians
his father → Leutfrid, duke of the Alemannians
his father

Leutfried, Herzog der Alemannen MP
Gender: Male
Birth:circa 480
Death:circa 554 (65-83)
Immediate Family:
Father of Leutharis I, duke of the Alemannians
Added by: Stéphane Pierre Édouard Chappellier on July 11, 2010
Managed by:James A. Nagel and 14 others
Curated by:Jason Scott Wills

Ingrīda Cinkmane (Dzelvīte) You have missed the point with these profiles, they are there in order to be visible, not to be taken for 100% proof of ours relationship to them. No sources have yet been found that says how they are related, it is thought that they belonged to the nobles in one and the same area, set up in some chronological order when they were active as dukes etc, but with no guarantes to actually be related to eachother. The point having them, is to easy further investigations, that might clear up their families with new findings eventually. They could indeed instead have been set up as individuals, isolated from the rest of the world tree, so there's is no point in claiming them as our actual ancestors, or to point out heavily that they had no proven offsprings, either we have them for a special investigational purpose, or we don't.

DESDE CARACAS, VENEZUELA
Luis Eduardo Sanabria Gascue
lsanabriag@gmail.com

Esta misma línea genealógica llega hasta mi
familia y la de mi esposa, pasando por la Península Ibérica y Canarias llega a CARACAS desde aprox. siglo XIV.
Hay una línea colateral que pasa hasta un Emperados Romano: FLAVIO TEODOSIO AUGUSTO.

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