Elizabeth Calp King (Waggoner) - From my inbox:

Started by Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 on Friday, June 24, 2022
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Thomas King's Wife was Elizabeth Strother of Orange Co., NC.
Thomas King was involved in the Strother Estate Distributions in Hancock Co., GA, where he lived in 1800.
I can send you all the documentary evidence regarding this.

The "Waggoner" surname was mere speculation from the 1980s that has been copied repeatedly and is incorrect.

You may email me for further details.

I am contacting you about this profile: Elizabeth King

Sincerely,

VK

How does she, Elizabeth Calp Waggoner, the daughter of a Rev War Patriot, become unattached to this Thomas King? This a basic question about how Geni works.

Vince King please share what you have that says Thomas King, Sr. 's wife is a woman named Elizabeth Strother rather than this Elizabeth Waggoner.

I adopted my profile and it was merged.
I am not familiar with her/the line.

Thank you in advance

Cynthia,

I can get this started tomorrow. Is there a way I can send these document sourced PDF to you directly and then you can decide the best way to post this information. My daughter is a member of DAR also. Thomas' father John was a patriot. I have no problem sending you all of the info....I just didn't want it to languish. My daughter has submitted a supplemental on Elizabeth Strother to add as his wife and I am sure it will be approved.

Again all of the sourced documentation is in a PDF file that I would like you to look at first.

Can this be arranged? If so you can email me direct at entech.design at verizon.net

Faustine Darsey on hiatus Are you able to assist?

I am looking. Thank you Cynthia. It will be tomorrow afternoon before I can work on it.

Thanks!
Faustine

Here are my thoughts after a quick look. DAR currently has Elizabeth Unknown. I will add her that way. When DAR accepts her maiden name we can add it. In the meantime you can mention that information in the Overview / About section. I will remove the name "Waggoner".

There is some confusion in the conversation--- Elizabeth's father is the DAR soldier Jacob Wagoner, Jr http://services.dar.org/Public/DAR_Research/search_adb/?action=full...

I do not see a DAR for Elizabeth's husband Thomas King, Sr. born North Carolina: https://services.dar.org/Public/DAR_Research/search_adb/default.cfm

Pulling this from Jacob Wagoner, Jr 's About.

"Susans father’s name was Jake Waggoner, he was not a soldier of the Revolutionary war. He was a cripple, and a patriot. Jake Waggoner was Dutch also and had emigrated to North Carolina from Europe. Jake Waggoner lived and died in North Carolina, is buried there."

And daughter Susanna Ann Phelps 's About says:

Mrs. R. A. Parks, a grand-daughter of the Felps, born in the year ______, remembers her grandmother, Susan, also does Mrs. Matt Dickey another grand-daughter - but neither remembers their grandfather. But Mrs. Dickey remembers being at a burying when quite small, but she can not say whether it was that of her grandfather, Brittain, or that of her Uncle John, a son of Brittain. Mrs. Park and Mrs. Dickey agree that their grandmother, Susan was very old when they first remember her, and that she died before the beginning of the Civil War. They describe her as a stockily built woman, low of statue, blue eyed and of fair complexion; that her hair was very thin and white, but that they have always understood that the natural color of her hair was sandy or reddish. She was thoroughly Dutch, and had Dutch Bible, from which she would sometimes read. She was born in North Carolina, during the Revolutionary War. Mrs. Parks says has been her understanding.

Susan (Waggoner) Felps survived her husband Brittain Felps some 10 or 12 years. Mrs. Matt Dickey Mrs. Parks remember her well, she always wore a fine lace cap and carried a large bunch of keys tied to her waist band. She owned many negro slaves, most of whom had grown old with the family, and she looked after the management of the large farm on Mulberry Creek which Brittain Felps owned when he died. She spoke English with an accent, and would often complain about the black sticky mud of this section saying she was raised in a sandy country where there was no muck.

Mrs. Dickey and Mrs. Parks remember one of these old slaves, his name was Jake, and he was regarded as a very mean negro, while back in North Carolina this negro slave became involved in an insurrectionary plot among the slaves, was detected in the plot, in a raid made on the slaves, a box of soldiers trapping, consisting of swords and a uniform, was found in this negro’s possession. He was tried and convicted, and sentenced to undergo a severe whipping. He was then brought to Tenn. by Brittain Felps, but was always regarded as a mean and dangerous negro.

Susan would often relate things that happened in her North Carolina home during this war. One of which was that when the "Tory" army was passing, her home, one of the army stragglers, a woman, left a child with the family which was kept and raised by them, being named Joe.

I really REALLY wish "people" would put such arguments in the DISCUSSION rather than on individual profiles where a Bio and references and Notes are helpful. A Discussion is the place to work these out, IMHO.
Like this Discussion.

Vince King I am thinking maybe there is a different Thomas King who married your Elizabeth Strother/Unknown?

Faustine Darsey on hiatus is there a way to look up wives/children rather than the Ancestor?

Elizabeth King is showing as a full sister to a curated profile for Elizabeth Crouse

Faustine Darsey on hiatus I see on Jacob Sr's DAR where the children and their spouses you are saying it doesn't give a maiden name for her. JACOB JR [1] CATHERINE X
I'll add these to the profile:

https://services.dar.org/Public/DAR_Research/search_adb/?action=ful...

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 & Vince King I have made some changes which I hope will help. DAR did have some clues. One of the older applications gave Elizabeth's maiden name as Waggoner (even though that name has not been proven). Also 3 grandkids of the Patriot through Thomas & Elizabeth are established. One of those 3 was listed under Elizabeth Calp King Waggoner. I found other trees on geni.com to combine and attach the other 2 kids. What do we do with Elizabeth Burroughs?

I suppose you would prefer to detach Elizabeth Unknown (wife of Thomas King) to be disconnected from the Waggoner family?

I am leaning to merging the second wife Elizabeth with Elizabeth Unknown because the spouse is named Partin, which is Hannah's husband's name.

I should say Elizabeth Burroughs' child's spouse is named Partin

My daughter has just submitted her application to the DAR with the documentation as a descendant of Patriot John Strother showing his daughter Elizabeth Strother as the wife of Thomas King (1768-1840). I will keep you posted and feel confident of its acceptance.

Vince King - just kibitzing. Enjoyed your document very much.

Erica Howton, I have more to come on this family. I am trying to find a platform to get accurate information on this family posted. I am 70+ and use my own writing style and citations....so will need the help of Geni aficionados to get info up.

Vince King

At your service. You might want to start with creating a Geni project. You might be able to simply copy / paste the PDF file, and on any event, you can upload it there as a repository.

Where Elizabeth unknown became Elizabeth Waggoner: https://www.geni.com/merge/view?revision_id=79079528660 Merged October 23, 2020

There are Gedcoms on the profiles.
Elizabeth Burroughs was an abandoned profile I adopted some time back. I think these abandoned profiles are often left because the genealogy is not good or because someone makes a mistake and is unable to correct it.

The Etymology of the Fictitious Amalgamated Elizabeth Calp Waggoner…
the Insidious Usurper of Elizabeth Strother

now that is a serious title

I disconnected Elizabeth King from parents Waggoner and Younts.

Elizabeth Crouse is showing as daughter of the couple and wife of Adam Crouse

Elizabeth Burroughs her Geni link.

She has a Smart Match I just added yesterday. I deleted the profile for father as it is unsourced. The Smart Match has a different father than the abandoned profile. Smart Match says father is Anthony. Deleted profile said George.
https://www.myheritage.com/research/record-1-304163671-4-57476/eliz...
I would delete the profile for Elizabeth Burrows/Burroughs except she shows as mother of one Charles King whose profile is managed by a Geni user who appears to not be active. He is the husband of a Nancy King

I have no objections to whatever is decided with Elizabeth Burroughs as we do not know who she is at this time and I do not know who she represented when she was added to the Big Tree.

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