Henry / Hartog / Hirts Mozes Ephraim - Name

Started by Private User on Sunday, May 15, 2022
Problem with this page?

Participants:

Profiles Mentioned:

Showing all 11 posts

First Name is currently "Henry / Hartog / Hirts"
and Middle Name is currently "Mozes"
I have seen a number of records for him, many of which I have uploaded to his profile, with some info in Overview, some info in the Timeline -- none give a middle name, none use"Hartog" or. "Hirts" -- all use Henry.
There is no documentation or explanation currently on the profile for those other names.

So
1) where do those other names come from / what documents or ?
2) The Also Known As field is currently empty -- Why put a string of choices in the First Name Field, rather than use the Also Known As field?

Private User - See above.

Give a clue where "Hartog" and "Hirts" come from if you have reason to believe they are correct.

There has been zero response so far, and the person who added the names has been active evey day since I tagged him, so I have removed the names "Hartog" and "Hirts".

If there is any reason to believe those names were ever Henry's name
1) provide documentation or at least information explaining where the names come from
2) IF info provided for them, Please put in the AKA field, not the First Name Field.

Lois,

When I do this kind of clean up I always place the alternate names in the AKA field, they don't need supporting evidence. The fact that someone has added them to the profile at some point (regardless of the accuracy) is evidence in itself that at least 1 person has used these names to refer to the person the profile represents.

Which is to say if my second cousin creates a tree and names me Alan in it there's a logical argument to merge "Alan" and my profiles together and put "Alan" in my AKA field, the fact that I myself have never gone by the name Alan is irrelevant.

There's a military record from 1814 of a man named Hartog Ephraim, which proves absolutely nothing but could be the same person.

There are numerous records for several of Henry's "brothers" in Den Haag during the 1800s, marrying and having children. I can't see anything connecting to a Henry but again that's not conclusive either

Alex Moes - are you seeing those records on Ancestry or MyHeritage or FamilySearch or ??

No, Dutch archives are highly digitised and free online. I've been looking in on Den Haag's website and also the national archives.

Thanks Alex.
I used the first one, did a search on Hartog Ephraim, got two results -
one to a Death Record of Hartog Ephraim in 1829
one to a military record -- the one you referenced, I think -- their military record includes a click on a picture of FamilySearch which takes me to
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9Y16-9QQ1?i=60
- which if I could read Dutch, might be helpful.

I haven't had my morning coffee yet, but the document you link to tells us that the name of Hartog Ephraim was Ephraim, not Moses. So it seems unlikely that Hartog = Henry.

Likewise the name of the mother (which i can't zoom in enough to read) does not look anything like Henry's mother's name.

Sorry, "...that the name of THE FATHER OF Hartog Ephraim was Ephraim..."

Showing all 11 posts

Create a free account or login to participate in this discussion