Who is your daddy ?

Started by J P Weyers on Friday, May 13, 2022
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Afrikaans ? Mammie ek wil n man he ? ---

On GENI and in genealogy we often come across this .
The papertrail shows different parents than genetics show.

1. Adopted children --llegal and illegal

2. Children from sperm donors -- children often do not know of this

3 . Spouse hiding the truth ?

I personally know of relatives baptised as the child of their grandparents or another relative to hide illegitimate birth .

Also children adopted from unwed parents by a complete stranger then baptised or registered as child of those parents .

However how to present that on GENI ?

In history we all know of some of the illegitimate children of famous Kings or Queens or other famous/infamous individuals .
Some never acknowledged but now proven with modern genetics .

How many fathers are unaware of what Richard Mason had to discover and yet he still accept those children as his .

Even in SA the Appel/Botha case a good example how the mother swore in court that Botha was the father of all her children . Did she lie or could she not remember ?

Other DNA testing have shown similar .
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A British man stumbled upon his ex-wife’s infidelity in an unusual way – through a medical exam - and found out he wasn't the biological father of their three sons.

When Richard Mason’s doctor informed him in 2016 that he had cystic fibrosis, he also noted that his patient was unable since birth to have biological children because of the condition. The infertility came as a shock to Mason, who had – or thought he had – produced three sons with his ex-wife, to whom he’d been married 20 years.

He had raised them since 1995, believing they were his own. But they were the children of a former coworker of Kate Mason, with whom she’d had a four-year affair, according to the Daily Telegraph.

In an instant I wasn't a dad: Wife is forced to pay husband £250,000 for 'tricking' him into believing three sons were his for 21 years after doctors told him he had almost certainly been infertile since birth

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6561079/Millionaire-reveal...

Tens of thousands of donor-conceived children grew up thinking they'd never know their biological fathers. Now, they have a chance to.

Finding the Lost Generation of Sperm Donors

https://www.theatlantic.com/family/archive/2018/05/sperm-donation-a...

Alice Keppel ?
Who were the fathers of her children ?
Her daughter : Violet Trefusis grt grandmother of Camilla , Duchess of Cornwall --- Born Violet Keppel, she was the daughter of Alice Keppel, who was married to George Keppel, a son of the 7th Earl of Albemarle. Members of the Keppel family thought her biological father was William Beckett, subsequently 2nd Baron Grimthorpe, a banker and MP for Whitby.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Keppel

Here some of questionable parentage .
Example : Henry II had several long-term mistresses, including Annabel de Balliol and Rosamund Clifford. He had some illegitimate children with them but his most prominent ones, Geoffrey (later Archbishop of York) and William (later Earl of Salisbury), were with other women.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_and_British_royal_mistress

This is an issue we have had when tracing back our genealogy. According to my grandfather when he was alive, we are related to Felix Benito

Felix Benito (de Borbon)

Somewhere along the line there is a missing link. I have tried, as have other family members, to trace back, but we all hit a dead end.

- On Geni " Ek glo nie dat XX XXXXXX my 6x oumagroot was nie. " ?

With genealogy what we believe ( glo ) , do not want to believe or want to be true ; more often not true .Here as in the story only Cinderella fits cinderella's slipper.
We can not pick our ancestors . Genealogy shows the documented tree and genetics /DNA the real tree .Often not the same !
Maybe why so many scared of DNA testing and mock it as unreliable ----

Anything on john robert dunn?

John Robert Dunn

Mary Dunn -- have been researching his descendants .Added a few and more information/sources for them

What more would you like to know ?

Being a descendant of the Kickers/Botha/Appel family does make one wonder about ones true lineage. I struggled for years to find my own biological parents and in the early software, it was nearly impossible to portray a tree with adoptions and both biological and adopted family. I have made enormous headway using a number of modern software houses and online genie site. I have now taken the step into DNA research, only to find 6k plus cousins. I would love to collaborate with someone on the same tree to find the truth about Botha and Appel.

As far as I can ascertain I am descendent from both Thuenis Appel(Both) and his half brother Jacobus botha

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