RELIGION, CIVIC STATUS AND SLAVERY FROM DORDT TO THE TREK ROBERTC.-H.SHELL

Are we discussing genetics or politics?

The history of the Cape and Southern Africa as background for the ancestry and therefore genealogy of South Africans.

Explaining how everything developed in the Cape.

How does any intelligent person separate politics from genealogy and why peoples moved and married and died anywhere in the world.
Why so many moved to the New World was definitely political .
Why the Huguenots fled France moved to the Cape and USA was very political
Why my Jewish ancestors fled Europe was also political.
Even today poilitics very much dictate the migration of most people.
I am aware that many people are not very well informed.
Censorship a direct result of politics , denied many of proper access to information.

When poilitics and politicians involve themselves who can marry who and live whre it definitely becomes relevant to genealogy.
Genetics , someting different from genealogy , even though the politicians try to control it in the end shows , who people are really descendant from . No one can change that.

J P Weyers
I agree Phillip. I am so glad to have discovered that despite all the political manoeuvrings in South Africa over the centuries, I can now proudly acknowledge my "stam Moeder' as a Creole slave, manumitted from the Slave Lodge in Cape Town, as a young girl by a German soldier, who married her and established the paternal line from whom I descend. I was assisted in the discovery by Sandra, the widow of Robert Shell, many thanks to her.

Lynette Deborah Cope Brown - knowing history is knowing ourselves

Hi Philip Weyers. I agree 100% with you. Politics has dictated all movement in many countries not only centuries ago but today too. Most people are looking for freedom and safety for their family. However it is being difficult to find. Is it niw due to over population or is it because governments are growing greedy and are enriching themselves and no longer caring for the people that seem to be voting them in. Are they being bamboozled by these governments? Or is it just plain ignorance?

Phillip.Politiek en agendas STINK-hou dit uit Geni asb ,dit het NIKS te doen met Geanologie nie !
Faan Jacobs

Lynette Smith - why it's so important to be transparent and not have censorship.
So many of us follow like sheep brainwashed by what we get told.
An historical perspective like this gives us so much information why our ancestors behaved the way they did and why some will never want to see reality.
Suddenly nowadays with access to so much more information we all can understand our own history better.

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The truth is the truth no matter how much it hurts. Yes we may not like it. But denying it is an injustice against future generations and ourselves.

Phillip. We are well aware how politics shaped, and still is shaping, history. There are many books and websites dedicated to the subject. Personally I have many books on my book shelves on the history that shaped the Cape and South Africa. However, this site is dedicated to the genetic connection of people, no matter the historical background that shaped the events that created those connections. It therefore serves no purpose to repeat historical background events on this site. Please stay within the framework of the purpose of this site. Thank you.

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Now I am right in the trough as my grandfather would say -- how low must one go ?

Politics = Opinion.
DNA = Fact

Geni is NOT an opinion platform so keep politics off, especially far left wokery and propaganda!

Thank the lord that now in 2022 all of us entitled to our opinion and views not just some in South Africa.
Those days are over !
No more rightwing oppresion of most South Africans and no more propoganda trying to keep us in the dark.

DNA fact shows that there are no "white " South Africans it was all a big lie.
DNA = fact

Facts yes !No more denying the truth and lying to people in South Africa.
Opinions of the NATs based not on any facts or DNA but just their opinion they forced on all of us.
Thank you so much DON for pointing this out .

Don -- thank you for introducing Politics and calling me a woke leftist. Proud to be called that. I am a forner SACP member now a Socialist and very proud of it.
Rather that anyday than a racist rightwing extremist that opressed people in South Africa.
1995 Liberation at last .

If any of those that objected to this discussion ihad bothered to read the article by Professor Robert Shell they would qickly have seen that it is a histocal fact based account of lfe at the Caoe 1650 to 1850 .Not political at all. Not based on opinion.
Not politics or biased .Not Genetics !
They chose to see it as political or politics .Maybe unable to understand it ?