Ens. Thomas Wilmarth - Sources for parents?

For what it’s worth, here’s an example pedigree

https://hillfamilymd.org/Family/wc14/wc14_401.html

The parents would need to be annotated, they should Thomas as son in the narrative / about.

Also see the comments at https://minerdescent.com/2010/06/21/thomas-wilmarth/, with a questioned death date.

So unless I'm missing something, it looks like no good sources on either to prove the parentage?

One very useful thing found through the first link is this citation:

"Author: Jacobus, Donald Lines, The ancestry of Lorenzo Ackley & his wife Emma Arabella Bosworth, N. G. Parke, Woodstock, Vt, 1960, 361 pgs, Heritage Quest, Date Viewed: 16 Aug 2005, Pg 100a Thomas Wilmarth b: Eng ca 1615"

So that's new, less precise info we could use for his birth place and death.

I had found the second link, but it doesn't seem to support the parents through any sources. I went through them earlier and the only ones that give parents are ones with literally no sources beyond other trees (if we're even that lucky).

Would you be doing the profile updates? The top of Ens. Thomas Wilmarth is confusing, I’m despairing at James Willymott the elder of Kelshall (Dead link but MinerDescent has it), and what kind of name is “Zenobia” in 1555 England? My temptation would be to archive the current James text as an attached text doc called “old about.”

(Zenobia Monke and her mother NN Monke) (this is a rhetorical question’.

And here we go.

Zenobia Monke

from soc.genealogy.medieval “Zenobia Monke 1555-1620” (2018)
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Hello, I am researching the Monkes and I am interested in Zenobia Monke who is shown in the "The Visitations of the County of Devon" on page 569 as the daughter of John Monke by a woman named "Bond". That would place her in the Plantagenet line because John is the son of Frances Plantagenet. Also, she is connected to many Americans because her daughter Elizabeth Morrison came to America.

Extracts from the investigation of this query by “taf,” medievalist.

https://soc.genealogy.medieval.narkive.com/ro5h91B4/zenobia-monke-1...

Here is where you need to be very careful. I see there are pedigrees all over the internet claiming this relationship, but there are red flags. Many of them call her 'Zenobia le Moyne Monke'. This may seem insignificant but is a huge cause for concern. This is not the name of a person, it is a chimera. …
The second red flag is with the dates. Most of pedigrees I see show Elizabeth Morrison born in the neighborhood of 1580. Were this truly the case, it pushes the limits of credulity to make her granddaughter of John Monke - not only was he not yet married in 1564, his elder brother had yet to wed. Geni.com puts Zenobia's birth in 1555, which does not match with the visitation. One pedigree out there instead puts Zenobia's birth in 1580, but ridiculously places it in Charleston, South Carolina. This pedigree shows Elizabeth born 1590, just ten years after her mother. …

(Pause to delete dates of 1555 - 1620 from Zenobia’s profile, and to change her name to Monke only.)

Continuing taf’s comments.

https://soc.genealogy.medieval.narkive.com/ro5h91B4/zenobia-monke-1...

In the 1635 visitation of Herts, we find a pedigree of Willimot of Kelshall. This pedigree shows James Willimot of Kelshall, living in 1634, married to Elizabeth Morrison of Sandon, Herts, with children James, aged 13, Thomas, Elizabeth, Anne, Mary & Hellyn.
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… So, whoever put together seems to have only gone as far as the Herts visitation, where they found a _____ Moyne (in the process apparently skipping a generation between Elizabeth Morrison Willimot and the Thomas Morrison who married the Moyne. They presumably looked for a Moyne available, and knowing that it translated as Monk, they found a Zenobia Monk who was granddaughter of a Plantagenet just too good to pass up, so they merged the two and gave her the dual name, Zenobia le Moyne Monk to reaffirm the connection. They were obviously unaware that the Lincs visitation gave the full name of this ____ Moyne as Elizabeth, and named her father Thomas, also giving her mother and maternal grandfather, and that this would have enabled them to trace the family back many many generations (but would not have involved anyone with the surname Plantagenet). …

Tagging Thomas Morrison, MP

Elizabeth Morrison

Thomas Morrison, of Sandon

Elizabeth Willimott & James Willymott the elder of Kelshall who did have a son Thomas.

https://soc.genealogy.medieval.narkive.com/ro5h91B4/zenobia-monke-1...

Bottom line - barring some extraordinary evidence in favor of the identification, Thomas Willmarth of Rehoboth, Massachusetts, was not the same as Thomas Willymott, second son of James Willymott the elder of Kelshall. The whole thing was a wild goose chase. This is, unfortunately, all too common with identifications of the English origins of American immigrants.

Ens. Thomas Wilmarth was not the son of James Willymott the elder of Kelshall & Elizabeth Willimott Do not confuse with Thomas Willimott, of Royston

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Profile could do with more and better references and biography, but at least it’s not embarrassingly trying to link to Plantagenets any more.