Lyyli Meronen and her sister Anna Meronen/Mustonen

Started by Annaliisa Abramova on Saturday, March 19, 2022
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It seems I have taken over the Tuutari community discussions but all of you have been always been of great help in solving the questions I have.

I am trying to solve the faith of my half-uncles aunt Lyyli Meronen born in 29.12.1920 in Lottula. She went missing in WW2. Lyyli Stephanstr. Meronen

Her family didn't know anything what happened to her after around 1942.

What is interesting is that someone with her name (different birthdate but very similar) turns out in Germany in Arlosen Archives in the period of 15.06.1942-22.05.1945 in Schöderup. She was still alive in 1945 by these documents.

In the documents the name changes from Lyyli Meronen -> Lyyli Merame -> Lili Merame.

You can do the search and see the documents in here:
https://collections.arolsen-archives.org/en/search

Does anyone have any ideas where I could find more information about this person in any German archives? It would be good to know if this is the same Lyyli Meronen or not, or if they are different people bearing the same name.

Another mystery I am trying to solve is the identity of the father of Lyylis half-sister Anna Meronen/Mustonen.
Anna Nelson

In Anna's birth-record she is marked as an out of wedlock child of one widow Sophia Josepstr. Mustonen (married name Meronen).
In the birth-record Anna's fathers name is written but striked trough. Still it is readable as one widowed man Pietari Mooseksenpoika Pöllä.
There seems to be some other documents referenced in this entry but I can't figure out which documents and village.

For example there should be some document No. 144 from (??) Hurlovsk? Hutolovsk? Tsjustoverlsk?
We can see that the father data should appear in page 75, but we don't know which village and which rippikirja. In page 75 no Peter Pöllä can be found in any of the Tuutari 1910-1924 rippikirjas, so it has to be from some other seurakunta/church region.

The page 299 for Merosi village for the mother Sophia matches the 1910-1924 Tuutari rippikirja.

The only Peter Mosess. Pöllä I can find is this but he doesn't seem to be a match, since his data is not in page 75, nor is he widowed in the rippikirja, nor is he from a village Hurlovsk.

Peter Mosess. Pöllä

Does anyone have any ideas where to go from here? DO you know of any other seurakuntas in Ingria where the Pöllä familyname appears?

Ideas?

I forgot to put in the link for Anna Meronen/Mustonens birth recrod. Here it is.
Anyone have any ideas what place the one in Russian writing is? Hurlovks is? Or what the nr. 144 stands for.

(Sünni sissekanne) 1923 - 1928 Syntyneiden luettelo / Рождение, 1926, sivu 126, sissekanne nr 135.: https://drive.google.com/file/d/197YEgoJx2hmEXSPvdzmQx6HVKFQrf16m/v...

It's a reference to a document of some kind issued by the local Nurkolovo (Nurkolovskov) seltsoviet. You could also check the birth registration issued by the local authorities (I think it's the one referenced as No 20, 20.04.1926) maybe it has additional information on fatherhood.

As to the materials from the Arolsen archives, I noticed that in one record Lyyli is mentioned together with someone called Nina Meronen, who is two years younger and thus could be her sister (both are from Finland, not Russia). This would mean that there was actually another Lyyli about the same age.
https://collections.arolsen-archives.org/en/search/person/70626530?...

In the village Ahmosi there was also Peter Filipson Ahmonen

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