Austin I Choate, Sr. - Consistency Check: (PLEASE DO NOT merge until this profile is fixed):

FamilySearch gives Edward as grandson to our Austin and so I have moved him which takes care of the age problems but sources are needed, please, and I am hopeful others will be able to assist as well.

I have found a Choate family website that may shed some light. Link: http://choatesoftennessee.weebly.com/

Does anyone have access to the Guion Miller Roll?

Edward Choate 's profile About/info has several different references and I am unable to find the records without a link

Application number: 39499

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mpfre......

Eastern Cherokee Application #38873 (Ollie Davis)

https://wc.rootsweb.com/trees/194512/I2606/-/individual
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Choate-631

Erica Howton has recommended tagging Kathy ForbesKathleen Forbes -- I don't know if this is her tag

Additionally, I know the jpeg for this profile was added by Linda (Carr) Buchholz

Nope. Wrong century for Forbes.

Erica Howton, please see

CNO (Western Cherokee) that Kathy Forbes works with uses the Dawes Rolls; the Profile Avatar is from the Eastern Cherokee Guion Miller Rolls.

There is a reference down in the about section that says "Cherokee were never in Maryland"

This is an incorrect statement -- SEE https://userpages.umbc.edu/~jamie/html/maryland_s_employment_of_the...

Austin Choate heritage
Posted 28 Apr 2016 by idabelle388
Austin Choate, during his growing years, found his family to be involved in the trading business with the Cherokee Indian, as well as other nations. Austin, himself, was half English and half Cherokee because of the marriage between Christopher Choate III and with the Prudence Staley, a Full Blooded Cherokee (records on file with Cherokee nation). At the time of his mother's marriage, Prudence dad, according to the records, was the Chief of the Cherokee tribe. The Choate's felt that their trading business would be enhanced by marrying within the Cherokee nation.

https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/86391459/person/830126...

The Eastern Cherokee app is for someone named Ollie Davis who said she was the wife of a man named Thomas Davis and the daughter of J.C. Davis and Patsy Choate Davis. She said Patsy's parents were Austin and "Rybun" Choate. No further information.

There were several branches of the Choate family all descending from a 17th century Maryland man named Christopher Choate. He had three or four sons who moved west through Virginia and all used and re-used the same names including Christopher and Austin. None had any connection to any Cherokee person although the Internet has provided mythical Cherokee wives for many of them. They are actually pretty well documented in records in several Virginia and Tennessee counties.

There is no marriage between "Austin Choate" and "Prudence Staley." The only record for a Prudence Choate is from a DAR application for Revolutionary War soldier Christopher Choate (DAR #A021678) who was born in Bedford County, Virginia 1750, lived in 96 District South Carolina for many years (and served from there), then moved to different locations in Tennessee, where he later died. Christopher Choate's Revolutionary War pension application (S3144, digitized at Fold3) makes no mention of a wife or children. It says that he was living in 96 District, South Carolina during the Revolutionary War period. The DAR record says:

"Prudence Choate Wife of Isham Dykes born 1782 in Tenn.; died April 5, 1862 in Altamont, Tenn (Grundy Co.) and was buried at Philadelphia, Tenn. (Warren County). Her father was Christopher Choate and her mother was Prudence(unknown) "

If she was mother of Prudence Choate Dykes (who was born in the 1780s), then she herself must have been born closer to 1755-1760 and therefore married to and earlier Christopher Choate.

Later researchers question the authenticity of the claims made in the DAR application and disregard the claim that Prudence was his wife, and instead claim Christopher's wife was named Sally.

The claim that she was the daughter of the Cherokee Chief Oconostota seems to be an invention of Don Greene. None of the Choates lived in or near the Cherokee Nation at that time.

Linda (Carr) Buchholz that link does not go to anything viewable. Can you add it as a screenshot?
Re https://www.ancestry.com/mediaui-viewer/tree/86391459/person/830126...

Kathryn Forbes et al, I have not seen them sorted and sourced yet here or any other collaborative site and am hopeful to at least try. There were many Christopher and many Austin making it difficult and perhaps impossible but I am wondering if the line for this Edward Edward Choate can be confirmed as correct as possible with regards to the Application of Mary Quarels Mary Ann Quarels
And Naomi “Oma” Choate also seems to have a name that is repeated-- Naomi Pyburn. There are "cousin marriages" which may explain but I am looking for those sources as well

Mary Ann Choate Quarles says (or rather the letter she signed says) none of them were enrolled and "never went west with the Indians"

I am not familiar with what is going on or why she came to sign .... the collection is titled at Fold3: Guion Miller Roll; Miscellaneous Testimony Taken Before Special Commissioners, Feb 1908- Mar 1909 Volume 2 Page 255

The mitochondrial haplo for Naomi “Oma” Choate is A2g.
I don't know what Edward Choate 's would be but his mother was said to have Native American ancestry as well as his father so this will be interesting if there is a development.

I will keep working on my direct from the bottom to help secure the part that I CAN confirm with records and my DNA matches.

I appreciate the input and all of you contributing. I am not familiar with Don Greene's part but have heard his name of course and I will remember this discussion if and when I see it while researching.
I typically only work on a line if a new DNA match comes up or if I run into them while merging.

Thank you, thank you, thank you

Oh, Erica! Great!

This is a different generation... will need to dissect them (what we have) if these are correct...

The difference between 1743 and 1790 for Naomi Omy --I see you already corrected "my" Austin

https://choatesofthesouth.org/showmedia.php?mediaID=79&medialin...

Eastern Cherokee applications of the U.S. Court of Claims
Collection of Eastern Cherokee applications of the U.S. Court of Claims
National Archives Microfilm Vol Reel 305
Claim 39499

Page 5 is where Joseph Huddleston is listed.
(As an aside-- My mom's Huddleston married Brewer.
These are going to be helpful I think...)

There is a Gedcom upload happening: https://www.geni.com/family-tree/index/6000000077849911130#60000001...

Della Iota Ramsey downline

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/153483535/christopher-choate adds nothing but I have as the 1775 Christopher https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/19106973:7667?ssr... grandfather of Lodeemia Choate

Who is Levista Jones Levista Jones?

https://choatesofthesouth.org/getperson.php?personID=I60&tree=c... Augustine Choate
Augustine Choate
Male Bef 1744 - 1810 (~ 66 years) husband of https://choatesofthesouth.org/getperson.php?personID=I353&tree=... Elizabeth Naomi (Oma) Pyburn, b. 1755