Query on husband and children of Eliza

https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON15-1-2$init=CON15-1-2p80
https://stors.tas.gov.au/CON15-1-2$init=CON15-1-2p81

Eliza ROSE arrived in Australia as a convict - her convict indent shows the following information

• age 24
• Convicted at Callow on 5 April 1842
• widow with 1 child abroad
• Husband Jno dead 2 years

The "Waverley" left Dublin on 4 August 1842 and arrived in Tasmania on 5 December 1842

https://www.orphanschool.org.au/showorphan.php?orphan_ID=4722
Emily ROSE age 4 daughter of Eliza ROSE "Waverley" was admitted to the Queens Orphan School from 20/12/1842 to 24/4/1845 and was released to her mother who had a ticket of leave

https://www.orphanschool.org.au/showorphan.php?orphan_ID=4725
James ROSE age 3 years and 6 months son of Eliza ROSE "Waverley" was admitted to the Queens Orphan School from 20/12/1842 to 24/4/1845 and was released to her mother who had a ticket of leave

https://www.orphanschool.org.au/showorphan.php?orphan_ID=4721
Amelia ROSE age 6, daughter of Eliza ROSE "Waverley" was admitted to Queens Orphan School from 3/3/1846 to 27/7/1847 and was released to her mother who had a ticket of leave

Tasmania Birth Record for Charles ROSE born 1/11/1845 baptised 14/11/1845 son of Eliza ROSE "Waverley"

Name:
Rose, Eliza
Record Type:
Convicts
Child:
Rose, Charles
Property:
Female House of Correction
Departure date:
4 Sep 1842
Departure port:
Dublin
Ship:
Waverley (2)
Place of origin:
Carlow
Origin location:
Latitude and Longitude
Voyage number:
206
Child's birth:
01 Nov 1845
Child's baptism:
14 Nov 1845
Index number:
61012
Record ID:
NAME_INDEXES:1430763
Conduct Record:

CON40/1/8
Description List:

CON19/1/2
Indent:

CON15/1/2
Record of Baptism - Female House of Correction:

AF586/1/3 p.3 1845

Name:
Rose, Charles
Record Type:
Births
Gender:
Male
Father:
Rose, Name Not Recorded
Mother:
Rose, Eliza
Date of birth:
01 Nov 1845
Registered:
Hobart
Registration year:
1845
Record ID:
NAME_INDEXES:1069638
Resource:
RGD33/1/2/ no 1380

Tasmania Marriage Record
Name:
Rose, Eliza
Record Type:
Marriage Permissions
Ship/free:
Waverley
Marriage to:
Williams, John
Ship/free:
William Metcalfe
Permission date:
24 Jul 1849
Index number:
61012
Record ID:
NAME_INDEXES:1263691
Resource:
CON52/1/3 Page 478

Tasmania Marriage Record
Name:
Rose, Eliza
Record Type:
Marriage Permissions
Ship/free:
Free
Marriage to:
Williams, John
Ship/free:
William Metcalfe
Permission date:
23 Jan 1849
Index number:
61012
Record ID:
NAME_INDEXES:1263690
Resource:
CON52/1/3 Page 475
RGD37/11 : 1852/444

Tasmania Marriage Record
Name:
Rose, Eliza
Record Type:
Marriages
Gender:
Female
Age:
30
Spouse:
Williams, John
Gender:
Male
Age:
49
Date of marriage:
16 Nov 1852
Registered:
Hobart
Registration year:
1852
Record ID:
NAME_INDEXES:843170
Resource:
RGD37/1/11 no 444

Tasmania Death Record
Williams, Eliza
Record Type:
Deaths
Gender:
Female
Age:
35
Father:
Williams, John
Date of death:
28 Aug 1853
Registered:
Hobart
Registration year:
1853
Record ID:
NAME_INDEXES:1191457
Resource:
RGD35/1/4 no 391

There is currently no evidence that Eliza was married to a NOLAN before her conviction and that they had a child who remained in Ireland and later emigrated to America

The relationship with Joel WARE has the statement "Uncertified by paper trail, certified by DNA"

But there is no dna evidence showing on the profiles.

I agree Mary

If someone provides evidence in the future we can review and reconnect if appropriate

Hi
Eliza doesn’t have a birth surname nor parents on Geni

Leanne

Hi Donna - I did not get Nolan from anywhere - As advised previously by private message I did not add him, this is plainly visible by looking at his profile where the revisions history will show who added him.

On Geni the father of Charles is listed as unknown.

This discussion was raised asking for anyone to provide any evidence but so far I am the only one who has actually provided any sources.

The James ROSE info is already listed in this discussion - 4th discussion point

Where are you seeing Peter Rose as the father to Charles Edward Rose? Can you attach a link to the profile so we can see what you are seeing or a screenshot?