John Robert Dunn, b5 - Descendants of John Robert Dunn

Huida Shenker

2/22/2022 at 10:01 PM

Good day all, please can you help me identify the Mother mentioned in the baptism record on the link below.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GT7B-9SZ6?i=4&...

Kind regards
Huida Shenker

Huida Shenker

2/22/2022 at 10:12 PM

The death notice of Catherine Pierce is on the link below:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS75-6QNW?i=407&am...

It lists her children as:
Annie Agnes Dunn married to Mr Gielink
Sarah Amy Dunn married to Mr Green
Alice Lily Dunn married to Mr F Green
Catherine Louisa Dunn married to Mr Samuelson
Mary Rose Dunn (single)
Lizzie Edith Dunn (single)
Jane Sunny Dunn (single)

I would be grateful if you could assist me to confirm if there were any other children of John Robert Dunn and Catherine Dunn (nee Pierce) please

Huida Shenker

2/23/2022 at 3:59 AM

I came across this record that shows the 4 of the children above parents as John R Dunn (Zulu Chief) and Mother Heather:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVSH-NSVK

Have you come across Heather as one of John Dunn's spouses. Your help would be greatly appreciated.

Sharon Doubell C

2/26/2022 at 1:02 AM

I think that says the mother is Heathen, not Heather?

I see

Emily Joy about 14yrs old in May 1886
Maria Lucy about 11 yrs old in May 1886
Emily Nancy about 9yrs oldi n May 1886
John Henry about 15 yrs old in May 1886

I'm not seeing a crossover with Catherine Dunn, Indlunkulu's children above? Am I misunderstanding?

Sharon Doubell C

2/26/2022 at 1:12 AM

Ahh - you're referencing this doc - sorry:https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GT7B-9SZ6?i=4&cc=1...

That gives us more children to add under the profile of 'Unknown Heathen Mothers'

Fanny Anna about 14yrs old on 2 May 1886
Emily Joy about 14yrs old on 2 May 1886
Maria Lucy about 11 yrs old on 2 May 1886
Emily Nancy (Ellen) about 9yrs old on 2 May 1886
John Henry (Harry) about 15 yrs old on 30 May 1886

Sharon Doubell C

2/26/2022 at 1:21 AM

I wonder if this is Fanny Anna? Fanny Anna Pierce

Sharon Doubell C

2/26/2022 at 1:22 AM

I'm going to presume so.

Sharon Doubell C

2/26/2022 at 2:06 AM

J P Weyers

2/26/2022 at 2:14 AM

Heathen better than some other mothers called

Sharon Doubell C

2/26/2022 at 2:16 AM

Truth

Huida Shenker

2/27/2022 at 3:07 AM

Thank you for coming back to me. Do you know who the children above Mother was please

J P Weyers

2/27/2022 at 3:19 AM

One of 5 heathen wives possible mother.

J P Weyers

2/27/2022 at 3:21 AM

Surely Catherine married 1853 can be added as wife?

Sharon Doubell C

2/27/2022 at 8:23 AM

Phillip - Catherine Pierce, his first wife - is there?

Sharon Doubell C

2/27/2022 at 8:23 AM

Catherine Dunn, Indlunkulu

Sharon Doubell C

2/27/2022 at 8:31 AM

Huida, as Phillipp says - the man was a polygamist to such a degree as to have a harem. Looks like he rounded this lot up and took them to be baptised. No way to tell who were half siblings or full siblings, but their ages suggest more than one mother is involved.

J P Weyers

2/27/2022 at 8:26 PM

Says on profile married Catherine Pierce 1853 will look for marriage

J P Weyers

2/27/2022 at 10:08 PM

On DN 1905 7 daughters with ages , eldest Annie Agnes Dunn age 41 , belonging to Catherine Dunn ( Pierce ) mentioned.

J P Weyers

2/27/2022 at 10:09 PM

Catherine and her daughters inherited the bulk of John Dunn 's estate according to his will.

J P Weyers

2/27/2022 at 10:15 PM

Finding baptisms for children of Catherine Pierce and John Dunn.

Fanny Anna Dunn 2 May 1886 her d.o.b. 1872

J P Weyers

2/27/2022 at 10:21 PM

?
But name of mother as Catherine not on actual baptism document.
Fanny Anna not mentioned on DN of Catherine Pierce

Huida Shenker

2/28/2022 at 1:00 AM

Thank you so far. Yes, the children I am looking at in this discussion is not on Catherine Pierce, head wife of John Robert Dunn's death notice.

I have come across other instances where John Dunn baptised a group of his children together, but there is no mention of the Mother. In this instance, I found it strange that the Mother or respective Mothers would be referred to as "heathen". Do you have any other records available that may assist to see who the children's Mother was please.

J P Weyers

2/28/2022 at 1:57 AM

On another familiy member of mine - Horsely the wives are mentioned " zulu wives "and the children also not allocated to specific mothers .
Heathen would just mean not baptised Christians .
RC would not have not then baptised the children . but Wesleyan / Methodist and Dutch Reformed church did not mind.

Huida Shenker

3/2/2022 at 2:08 AM

Thank you

J P Weyers

3/2/2022 at 2:36 AM

another baptism

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GT7B-9S8H?i=2&...

J P Weyers

3/2/2022 at 2:47 AM

Bertha Dunn age 15 baptised 1883

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GT7B-9S44?i=16&amp...

J P Weyers