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Lenora (de' Medici) Di Genova - Proof of origins?

Started by Erica Howton on Monday, January 24, 2022
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Erica Howton C
1/24/2022 at 12:51 PM

What reason is there to keep Lenora di Genova connected as daughter of Lorenzo de' Medici, il Vecchio

Serious family researchers cannot find her (see notes below).

Also, are the dates screwy?

https://www.italiangenealogy.com/forum/topic/17041

Yes, I am aware of this. One branch of my family is descended from Jacopo di Genova and Leonora de Medici, and they are included in the family history prepared by my father over a period of 40 years. The document to which you are referring is available in both the Virginia State Library and (in extracts) at the University of Virginia Library. At one time, notes on Jacopo were also available at http://www.mindspring.com/~arturo/gannaway.htm, but when I just went to check that link it was no longer active.

I don't have anything anything further back. The Lorenzo mentioned earlier in this chain ("The Elder") was born in 1395, but both Jacopo and Leonora were born in Florence in 1544, with Ricardo (as you know) being born in 1564; I'm trying to source the disconnect. She would have been the daughter of someone from a later generation than Lorenzo the Magnificent.
Marvin Loyd Welborn PRO
1/24/2022 at 1:47 PM

here's 'something' but from the 1700s:

**quote***
Written by M. Gannaway in the 1700s
........................... (copy on file in the Virginia State Library)

According to the BBC Guide to Pronunciations, GANNAWAY means "Native of Genoa". The Gannaway Ancestry identifies the Gannaways as a minor branch of the de Medici family.

Jacopo di Genoa b 1544 m. Leonora di Medici b 1544 of Florence - I use Jacopo di Genoa here as it agrees more with Gannaway native of Genoa, and also we need a seaman/merchant to get to England and the US. Some list Jacopo di Medici. (I'll change it if anyone has good evidence).
Ricardo di Genova b 1564 m. Donna Cid-Ruy-Diaz from Villa Moros Spain
Giovanni di Genova m. Margarita Maroni Campolo Venizia (Giovanni changed his name to John Genoway
John Gannaway m. Lucy Hensingham
Robert m. Sally Paget (Page?)
Edward m. Hilda Van Campen
Marmaduke m Henrietta Campmartin (of Toulouse France, but possibly also the Netherlands).
John Gannaway of Bath b 1680, England m Zaida Larriategui b 1687 of Villa de Moros
Continued in Spain
(I am very suspicious of Bath, lets leave it there for now).
***unquote***
source: https://web.archive.org/web/20050524080314/http://www.opendoor.com/...
Erica Howton C
1/24/2022 at 2:00 PM

I think we’re good enough once we get to England, but that Medici thing …
Erica Howton C
1/24/2022 at 2:02 PM

Notice - Jacopo doesn’t have a real surname, just a toponym. Interesting.
Livio Scremin
1/24/2022 at 3:12 PM

For sure the JPG of Jacopo di Genova
is Giuliano de' Medici
Livio Scremin
1/24/2022 at 3:30 PM

& the JPG used for the she (the object of discussion) Lenora di Genova by same illustrator USER Christina M Veselik

is: Leonor de' Medici

we start badly :D
Erica Howton C
1/24/2022 at 6:06 PM

Good eye!

“ "This Eleonora was a tall young woman, charming and beautiful, of becoming presence and endowed with courtly manners and virtuous habits."[1] Portrait: Alessandro Allori, Eleonora ('Dianora') di Don Garzia di Toledo di Pietro de'Medici, circa 1571.”
Erica Howton C
1/24/2022 at 6:09 PM

Somehow I doubt https://www.geni.com/photo/view?album_type=photos_of_me&id=6000000027132348440&photo_id=6000000080533381022&position=1

(https://media.geni.com/p13/d3/29/4d/2c/53444848ac81df9e/5ca53232e557149837bae91a092d082e_original.jpg)?hash=618e06cfba8de71765d1f7b31e1df18e66415e0f425da23920e7a6562a68c143.1738655999

Is a portrait of Jacopo di Genova
Erica Howton C
1/24/2022 at 6:21 PM

Here, by the way, is this Medici family at Medlands :

http://fmg.ac/Projects/MedLands/NORTHERN%20ITALY%20after%201400.htm...

GIOVANNI “di Bicci” de' Medici, son of AVERADO [III] de´ Medici & his [second wife Giacoma Spini] (1360-Florence 20 Feb 1429). m PICCARDA de' Bueri, daughter of ODOARDO de' Bueri & his wife --- (-1432).
Giovanni & his wife had four children:

4. LORENZO de' Medici (1395-villa di Carregi near Florence 23 Sep 1440). m (1416) GINEVRA Cavalcanti, daughter of GIOVANNI Cavalcanti & his wife ---.

children:

a) FRANCESCO (-before 1440). m MARIA Gualterotti, daughter of BARTOLOMEO Gualterotti & his wife ---.

b) PIER FRANCESCO de' Medici (1431-murdered 28 Mar 1469). m (1456) LAUDOMIA Acciajuoli, daughter of GIACOPO Acciajuoli & his wife Costanza Bardi. Pier Francesco & his wife had two children:

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