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Y-DNA , mtDNA and atDNA
They start with R1 or N1 or E1 them more number added R1b or N1c and E3a -- I am 1b > R-M269 > R-U106 bit still more than 4000 years separate me from

Royal House of Saxe-Coburg Gotha:

Prince Albert
R1b-U106

Edward VII
R1b-U106

George V
R1b-U106

George VI
R1b-U106

It appears the same but very long ago we shared a common ancestor
just R1b for Y-Dna or N1a for mtDNA still leaves you stranded or possible ancestor from West Africa Y-DNA R1b or Arabia mtDNA N1a not neccesarily Europe or Asia ,

Although human Y chromosomes belonging to haplogroup R1b are quite rare in Africa, being found mainly in Asia and Europe, a group of chromosomes within the paragroup R-P25* are found concentrated in the central-western part of the African continent, where they can be detected at frequencies as high as 95%

https://www.nature.com/articles/ejhg2009231

https://www.abroadintheyard.com/famous-faces-linked-by-y-dna-haplog...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_N1a_(mtDNA)

N1a originated in the Near East [3] 12,000 to 32,000 years ago.[1] Specifically, the Arabian Peninsula is postulated as the geographic origin of N1a. This supposition is based on the relatively high frequency and genetic diversity of N1a in modern populations of the peninsula.[4] Exact origins and migration patterns of this haplogroup are still subject of some debate.

Debate on Origin of Neolithic Europeans

Two main competing scenarios exist for the spread of the Neolithic package from the Near East to Europe: demic diffusion (in which agriculture was brought by farmers) or cultural diffusion (in which agriculture was spread through the passage of ideas).

N1a became particularly prominent in this debate when a team led by Wolfgang Haak analyzed skeletons from Linear Pottery Culture sites. The Linear Pottery Culture is credited with the first farming communities in Central Europe, marking the beginning of Neolithic Europe in the region some 7500 years ago. As of 2010, mitochondrial DNA analysis has been conducted on 42 specimens from five locations. Seven of these ancient individuals were found to belong to haplogroup N1a[5][6]

A separate study analyzed 22 skeletons from European hunter-gatherer sites dated 13400-2300 BC. Most of these fossils carried the mtDNA haplogroup U, which was not found in any of the Linear Pottery Culture sites. Conversely, N1a was not identified in any of the hunter-gatherer fossils, indicating a genetic distinction between Early European Farmers and late European hunter-gatherers

Haplogroup R-M269

European R1b is dominated by R-M269. It has been found at generally low frequencies throughout central Eurasia,[17] but with relatively high frequency among the Bashkirs of the Perm region (84.0%) and Baymaksky District (81.0%).[18] This marker is present in China and India at frequencies of less than one percent. The table below lists in more detail the frequencies of M269 in regions in Asia, Europe, and Africa.

The frequency is about 92% in Wales, 82% in Ireland, 70% in Scotland, 68% in Spain, 60% in France (76% in Normandy), about 60% in Portugal,[19] 45% in Eastern England, 50% in Germany, 50% in the Netherlands, 42% in Iceland, 43% in Denmark, and 39% in Italy. It is as high as 95% in parts of Ireland. It is also found in some areas of North Africa, where its frequency peaks at 10% in some parts of Algeria.[20]

M269 has likewise been observed among 8% of the Herero in Namibia.

[21] The R-M269 subclade has been found in ancient Guanche (Bimbapes) fossils excavated in Punta Azul, El Hierro, Canary Islands, which are dated to the 10th century (~44%).[22] In western Asia, R-M269 has been reported in 29.2% of Assyrian males from Iran.[23] Haplogroup R1b1 and its subclades in Asia.[24] M269* (xL23) is found at highest frequency in the central Balkans notably Kosovo with 7.9%, North Macedonia 5.1% and Serbia 4.4%.[19] Kosovo is notable in having a high percentage of descendant L23* or L23(xM412) at 11.4% unlike most other areas with significant percentages of M269* and L23* except for Poland with 2.4% and 9.5% and the Bashkirs of southeast Bashkortostan with 2.4% and 32.2% respectively.[19] Notably this Bashkir population also has a high percentage of M269 sister branch M73 at 23.4%.[19] Five individuals out of 110 tested in the Ararat Valley, Armenia belonged to R1b1a2* and 36 to L23*, with none belonging to known subclades of L23.[25] Trofimova et al. (2015) found a surprising high frequency of R1b-L23 (Z2105/2103) among the peoples of the Idel-Ural. 21 out of 58 (36.2%) of Burzyansky District Bashkirs, 11 out of 52 (21.2%) of Udmurts, 4 out of 50 (8%) of Komi, 4 out of 59 (6.8%) of Mordvins, 2 out of 53 (3.8%) of Besermyan and 1 out of 43 (2.3%) of Chuvash were R1b-L23 (Z2105/2103),[26] the type of R1b found in the recently analyzed Yamna remains of the Samara Oblast and Orenburg Oblast.[27]

R1b1a1a2a (R-L23)

R-L23* (R1b1a1a2a*) is now most commonly found in Europe, Anatolia, the Caucasus.
R1b1a1a2a1 (R-L51)

R-L51* (R1b1a1a2a1*) is now concentrated in a geographical cluster centred on southern France and northern Italy.
R1b1a1a2a1a (R-L151)
Main article: Haplogroup R-L151

R-L151 (L151/PF6542, CTS7650/FGC44/PF6544/S1164, L11, L52/PF6541, P310/PF6546/S129, P311/PF6545/S128) also known as R1b1a1a2a1, and its subclades, include most males with R1b in Western Europe.
R1b1a1a2a1a1 (R-U106)

This subclade is defined by the presence of the SNP U106, also known as S21 and M405.[7][56] It appears to represent over 25% of R1b in Europe.[7] In terms of percentage of total population, its epicenter is Friesland, where it makes up 44% of the population.[57] In terms of total population numbers, its epicenter is Central Europe, where it comprises 60% of R1 combined.[57] See also Haplogroup R-Z18

Alas I am negative for R-Z18 .

Haplogroup R1b (Y-DNA)
From ISOGG Wiki

Haplogroup R1b (R-M343) is the most frequently occurring Y-chromosome haplogroup in Western Europe and the most common haplogroup in the genetic genealogy databases. R1b1a2 (R-M269) is the dominant branch of R1b in Western Europe.

When you take a standard Y-chromosome DNA test with a company such as Family Tree DNA you will be given a base haplogroup assignment such as R1b1a2 (R-M269). It is necessary to order additional SNP testing to confirm which subclade of R1b you belong to. It is sometimes possible to predict the R1b subclade from a 67-marker Y-STR haplotype. If the participant has close matches at 67 markers the prediction can sometimes be informed by the SNP status of his matches. If the subclade can be predicted with reasonable confidence then single SNP testing can be ordered from Family Tree DNA's à la carte SNP menu. Otherwise it is necessary to order a full SNP test for confirmation of your SNP status. SNP status can also be confirmed with the 23andMe test though this incorporates a much smaller range of Y-SNPs and will not provide such a detailed haplogroup assignment.

As a result of the rapid population expansion in the last 4000-5000 years some of the lineages within R1b1a2 have experienced convergence of STR vlaues. As part of the random mutation process more distant lineages have moved closer together producing coincidental matching haplotypes. If you have a lot of matches with different surnames SNP testing is recommended to eliminate such coincidental matches. If two men are in different subclades of R1b they will be on different sub-branches of the Y-SNP tree and will not share a common ancestor within a genealogical timeframe. In some cases private SNPs have been found which have arisen within the last 500 years or so which are restricted to a single surname and its related Y-line genetic families. SNP testing will become increasingly important in surname DNA projects in the years to come. SNP testing is also of great interest for those who wish to learn more about the origins of their surname and their deep ancestry in an anthropological timeframe.

https://isogg.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1b_(Y-DNA)

Please note all the sceptics

In some cases private SNPs have been found which have arisen within the last 500 years or so

which are restricted to a SINGLE SURNAME and its related Y-line genetic families.

SNP testing will become increasingly important in surname DNA projects in the years to come. SNP testing is also of great interest for those who wish to learn more about the origins of their surname and their deep ancestry in an anthropological timeframe.

P312 or U106?

The two dominant subclades of L11 are P312 and U106 but it is often difficult to differentiate between these two subclades, especially from a 37-marker haplotype. The dominant Western Atlantic Modal Haplotype is found in both P312 and U106.

In November 2012 Tim Janzen analysed a file of 1089 SNP-tested R-U106 haplotypes and 701 SNP-tested R-P312 haplotypes. He found that the modal (most common) allele values at 37 markers were the same for both R-U106 and R-P312 with the exception of these markers: DYS390, DYS576 and CDYa.[1] Below are the modal values for those three markers for each subclade:
Haplogroup DYS390 DYS576 CDYa
R-U106 23 17 37
R-P312 24 18 36

My own U106 currently negative to al futher subclades .

U106 and subclades

The U106/S21 SNP was first discovered in 2005.[2] The SNP was first offered for testing as S21 in August 2005 by Ethnoancestry (now BritainsDNA).[3] It was later offered for testing by Family Tree DNA as U106, the name by which it is now more familiarly known. Everyone who has tested positive for U106/S21 is encouraged to join the U106/S21 project. For general advice and discussions on U106/S21 join the U106/S21 Yahoo mailing list.

The official U106 SNP tree is maintained by Raymond Wing and can be seen here.

For an overview of U106 and its geographical spread see the reports from Iain MacDonald on his Recent human genetic anthropology website.

Another YDNA Haplogroup N1 or N1c

N1c (L729)

N1c1 (M46/Page70/Tat)
N1c1a (M178): found in Siberia (Khakass-Daurs)
N1c1a1 (L708): found in Siberia (Anayins)
N1c1a1a (P298): found in Siberia (Yakuts)
N1c1a1a1 (L392, L1026): Finno-Ugric branch; found throughout north-east Europe
N1c1a1a1a (CTS2929/VL29): Baltic-Finnic branch
N1c1a1a1a1 (L550): West Finnic branch; found around the Baltic Sea and in places settled by the Vikings
N1c1a1a1a1a (L1025)
N1c1a1a1a1a1 (M2783): found especially in Balto-Slavic countries, with a peak in Lithuania and Latvia
N1c1a1a1a1a2 (Y4706): found mostly in Finland and Scandinavia
N1c1a1a1a2 (CTS9976): East Finnic branch; found among the Chudes (Karelia, Estonia)
N1c1a1a1a2a (L1022)
N1c1a1a1a2a1 (Z1936): Finno-Permic branch; found in the Volga-Ural region and among the Karelians and Savonians
N1c1a1a1a2a1a (Z1925): found in Finland, Lapland, Scandinavia, the Volga-Ural and the Altai
N1c1a1a1a2a1a1 (Z1933)
N1c1a1a1a2a1a1a (Z1927): found among the Karelians
N1c1a1a1a2a1a1b (CTS8565): found among the Savonians
N1c1a1a2b (L1034): Ugric branch; found in and around Hungary and in Central Asia (Kazakhstan)
N1c2 (L666): found in Russia
N1c2a (M128)
N1c2b (P43): found in the Volga-Ural region
N1c2b1 (P63)
N1c2b2 (L665)

Haplogroup N1c is found chiefly in north-eastern Europe, particularly in Finland (61%), Lapland (53%), Estonia (34%), Latvia (38%), Lithuania (42%) and northern Russia (30%), and to a lower extent also in central Russia (15%), Belarus (10%), eastern Ukraine (9%), Sweden (7%), Poland (4%) and Turkey (4%). N1c is also prominent among the Uralic speaking ethnicities of the Volga-Ural region, including the Udmurts (67%), Komi (51%), Mari (50%) and Mordvins (20%), but also among their Turkic neighbours like the Chuvashs (28%), Volga Tatars (21%) and Bashkirs (17%), as well as the Nogais (9%) of southern Russia.

Famous N1c1 individuals
Ivan the Terrible

According to the descendant testing listed at the Russian Nobility DNA Project at FTDNA, the branch of the Rurik dynasty descended from Vladimir II Monomakh (Monomakhoviches) belong to
Y-DNA haplogroup N1c1-L550 (Y4343 subclade),
and includes Alexander Nevsky (1220-1263) and Ivan the Terrible (1530-1584). Notwithstanding, the branch descended from Vladimir II Monomakh's presumed paternal cousin Oleg I of Chernigov (Olgoviches) belonged to R1a1a. The Y-DNA from the Proto-Rurikid branches is N1c1 and matches the distinctive haplotype of the Monomakhoviches. Furthermore, this N1c1 haplotype possess the distinctive value DYS390=23, found in Scandinavia but not in Uralic populations, confirming that this was indeed the original haplotype of the Varangian prince Rurik (c. 830-c. 879) who established the Kievan Rus'.
Casimir IV Jagiellon, King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania

The Rurikid Dynasty DNA Project at FTDNA managed to determine that the Lithuanian Gediminid dynasty, although not descended from the Rurik dynasty, also belongs to haplogroup N1c1. The House of Gediminas ruled as Grand Duke of Lithuania from ca. 1285 to 1440. An offshoot of Geminids is the Jagiellonian dynasty who ruled as the Kings of Poland and Grand Dukes of Lithuania from 1386 to 1572, and also include two Kings of Bohemia, Hungary and Croatia between 1471 and 1526.
Henryk Sienkiewicz

Polish politician Bartlomiej Sienkiewicz, who served as the minister of interior from 2013-2014, was tested in GENOgraphic project (as mentioned in Newsweek Poland) and was found to belong to haplogroup N1c. His grandfather was Henryk Sienkiewicz, a journalist, novelist and Nobel Prize laureate. He is best remembered for his historical novels, especially for his internationally known best-seller Quo Vadis (1896), adapted as a film by Hollywood in 1951.

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_N1c_Y-DNA.shtml

Haplogroup I1 Y-Dna >> I-M253 -- Jansz van Rensburg ?

According to a study published in 2010, I-M253 originated between 3,170 and 5,000 years ago, in Chalcolithic Europe. A new study in 2015 estimated the origin as between 3,470 and 5,070 years ago or between 3,180 and 3,760 years ago, using two different techniques.

Haplogroup I1 is the most common type of haplogroup I in northern Europe. It is found mostly in Scandinavia and Finland, where it typically represent over 35% of the Y chromosomes. Associated with the Norse ethnicity, I1 is found in all places invaded by ancient Germanic tribes and the Vikings. After the core of ancient Germanic civilisation in Scandinavia, the highest frequencies of I1 are observed in other Germanic-speaking regions, such as Germany, Austria, the Low Countries, England and the Scottish Lowlands, which all have between 10% and 20% of I1 lineages.

All Germanic tribes expanded from a small geographic core around Denmark and southern Sweden within the last 2500 years. STR (short tandem repeats) variations allows to divide I1 members in various categories. There are two main clusters, each with their own subgroups.

the Northern cluster, peaking in Norway, Sweden and Finland, which corresponds to the I1a2 (L22+, formerly known as I1d) subclade. It normally has an STR value greater than 22 for DYS390.
the Norse group, corresponds to Ken Nordtvedt's Norse (mostly Swedish) and Ultra-Norse (mostly Norwegian and Icelandic) haplotypes. The Ultra-Norse haplotype 1 (I1-uN1) difers from the Norse one by having DYS385b=15 and (usually) DYS449=29.
the Bothnian group, is found mostly in Finland and northeast Sweden. It corresponds to I1a2c1 (L287>L258+) subclade, which it makes up 75% of the I1 lineages in Finland.
the Southern cluster, most common in Denmark, Germany, the Low Countries and the British Isles. It corresponds to Ken Nordtvedt's Anglo-Saxon haplotype (originally Danish and North German).
the Danish/Polish group usually has a DYS557 value greater than 15.
the Western group, comprising the Low countries, England, Scotland and Ireland, matches the Z58+ subclade. It probably matches Anglo-Saxon and Frisian/Batavian ancestry.
there appears to be a specific Welsh subgroup defined by a GATA-H4 value superior or equal to 11. This subgroup is also found in England and on the continent, but is especially common in Wales.
the German group, is the most common type of I1 in Germany, France, Italy and Central Europe, but is also found in the British Isles and to a lower extent in Scandinavia. It is defined by a DYS456 value inferior to 15. It corresponds to the Z63+ subclade.

Famous individuals

Malmströma et al. tested the DNA of Birger Jarl and his son Eric Birgersson, and they were identified as members of haplogroup I1. Birger Jarl was one of Sweden's greatest medieval statesman. He was the founder of Stockholm, and acted as regent of Sweden for 18 years. His sons Valdemar and Magnus suceeded each others as kings of Sweden, and their descendants for one hundred years. This dynasty is known as the House of Bjelbo, and all six kings were presumably members of haplogroup I1.
Jacques I, Prince of Monaco

Based on the numerous results from the Gentis Grimaldorum DNA Project, the original House of Grimaldi, which inlcuded the Lords then Princes of Monaco until Louis II of Monaco (1870-1949), belonged to a Scandinavian branch of haplogroup I1-L22 > Y3549 > P109 > Y3662 > S14887. The House of Grimaldi also produced three doges of Genoa, a prince of Salerno, and several archbishops and cardinals. The current Princes of Monaco descend from the House of Polignac.

Clan Hamilton is a Lowland Scottish clan whose chiefs descend from Walter fitz Gilbert of Hambledon in 14th-century Lanarkshire. One branch of the clan acquired the titles of Laird of Cadzow (c. 1315), Lord Hamilton (1445), Earl of Arran (1503), Marquess of Hamilton (1599), and eventually Duke of Hamilton (1643) until the 12th duke died without male heir in 1895 and the title passed to Clan Douglas. Another branch became Lords Paisley (1587), Earls of Abercorn (1606), Marquesses of Abercorn (1790), and Dukes of Abercorn (1868) to this day. Hundreds of participants tested at the Hamilton DNA Project, including a close relative of the current Duke of Abercorn. The project proved conclusively that all Hamilton branches descending from Sir James Hamilton, 5th Laird of Cadzow, progenitor of both aforementioned branches, belong to I1-Z63 > BY151 > FGC81364 > S2078 > S2077 > Y2245 > L1237 > Y6634 > FGC9549 > Y6615, with a most recent common ancestor living about 750 years ago.

Clan Lyon is a Scottish clan of Anglo-Norman origin descended from Ingelram de Lyons, Lord of Lyons, who arrived in England with the Norman Conquest. The main Scottish branch descends from John Lyon, Lord of Glamis (c.1340-1382), who was Chamberlain of Scotland between 1377 and 1382. The clan chiefs later held the title of Lord Glamis (from 1445), Earls of Kinghorne (1606), and eventually Earls of Strathmore and Kinghorne from 1677 to this day. The 9th Earl took his wife's surname (Bowes), and his descendants carried the hyphenated Lyon-Bowes or Bowes-Lyon patronym. The 14th Earl, Claude Bowes-Lyon was the father of Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother and the maternal grandfather of Queen Elizabeth II. Results from the Lyon(s) Surname DNA Project indicate that the aristocratic branch of Clan Lyon belongs to I1-L22 > Z2338 > P109 > S10891, a clade associated with the Viking migrations and the Normans. Several of the tested participants descend from the 4th Earl.
Robert E. Lee

The Lee family of Virginia and Maryland has been found to belong to haplogroup I1-L22 > P109 > S10891 > Y13930 > Y14227 > Y14225 based on descendant testing. Famous members include Richard Lee I (1617–1664), founder of the family and wealthy landowner, Richard Henry Lee (1732-1794), one of the Founding Fathers of the United States, and General Robert E. Lee (1807-1870), who was commander of the Confederate States Army during the American Civil War.

Results from the Wilson DNA Project helped determine that the American statesmen, politician, legal scholar, and Founding Father James Wilson (1742-1798) most probably belonged to haplogroup I1. Wilson was elected twice to the Continental Congress, was a signatory of the United States Declaration of Independence, and was a major force in drafting the United States Constitution.

The Hamilton DNA Project compared the Y-DNA of four descendants of Alexander Hamilton (1755-1804), one of the a Founding Fathers of the United States of America. All shared very close STR values, proving beyond reasonable doubt that they shared a same recent patrilineal ancestor. His deep clade would be I1-Z58 > Z59 > CTS8647 > Z61 > Z60 > Z140 > Z141 > Y15150 > Y48678 (not the same as the noble House of Hamilton).
Andrew Jackson

Andrew Jackson (1767-1845), the 7th president of the United States, most probably belonged to haplogroup I1 based on a comparison of his genealogy and results from the Jackson DNA Project. A distant relative of his was Lieutenant General Thomas Jonathan "Stonewall" Jackson (1824-1863), the best-known Confederate commanders of the American Civil War after General Robert E. Lee. Both of them are descended from Sir Anthony Jackson (1594-1666) from Yorkshire, England.

American inventor and painter Samuel Morse (1791-1872) presumably belonged to haplogroup I1-L22 based on results from the Morse/Moss DNA Project (Family 1, descendant of Anthony Morse, 1606-1686, from Wiltshire, England). After having established his reputation as a portrait painter, in his middle age Morse contributed to the invention of a single-wire telegraph system based on European telegraphs. He was a co-developer of Morse code and helped to develop the commercial use of telegraphy.

The haplogroup of the celebrated Russian writer Count Lev Nikolayevich Tolstoy,

https://www.eupedia.com/europe/Haplogroup_I1_Y-DNA.shtml

Vikings and I1 Haplogroup

The second major Indo-European migration to Scandinavia was that of haplogroup R1b-U106, the branch that is thought to have introduced Proto-Germanic languages, as an offshoot of the Proto-Celto-Germanic speakers from Central Europe. R1b probably entered Scandinavia from present-day Germany as a northward expansion of the late Unetice culture (2300-1600 BCE). The oldest known R1b sample in Scandinavia dates from the Nordic Bronze Age circa 1400 BCE (see Allentoft 2015 above).

N1c1 lineages, however, may have not have arrived that early either. N1c1 is associated with the diffusion of the Uralic languages, which are thought to have spread to the eastern Baltic with the Comb Ceramic culture from 4200 BCE, around the same time as the Funnelbeaker culture. According to a phylogenetic reconstruction of the Uralic languages by Honkola et al. (2013), the Proto-Finnic and Proto-Samic split from each others only 2,500 years ago, and Samic dialects started diversifying less than 1,000 years ago. In all likelihood all trace of the Mesolithic inhabitants of Lapland has been wiped out on the paternal (Y-chromosomal) side, like in most of Scandinavia. Before the arrival of N1c1 in Fennoscandia, the Nordic ancestors of the Saami would have belonged to Y-haplogroups I* and I2, and to mt-haplogroups U5b and V.

So how comes that modern Scandinavians belong essentially to three haplogroups (I1, R1a and R1b) that haven't been found in Mesolithic Scandinavian samples? I1 would have been the first to penetrated into Scandinavia during the farming transition that lasted roughly from 4,200 to 2,300 BCE. It could be that the replacement of Mesolithic paternal lineages (I* and I2) throughout Nordic countries, including Lapland and Finland, started with a few farmers and stock breeders that spread around Scandinavia and through a founder effect belonged almost exclusively to I1. The alternate hypothesis is that I1 spread together with R1a-Z284 from Denmark to Sweden and Norway during the Chalcolithic and Early Bronze Age with the Battle-Axe culture. So far the earliest evidence of I1 in Scandinavia dates from the Nordic Bronze Age, with a single sample from Sweden dating from circa 1400 BCE by Allentoft et al. (2015)

Vikings : I1 Haplogroup plus R1b haplogroup --another myth as Vikings being solely I1 dispelled

So far the earliest evidence of I1 in Scandinavia dates from the Nordic Bronze Age, with a single sample from Sweden dating from circa 1400 BCE by Allentoft et al. (2015)

The oldest known R1b sample in Scandinavia dates from the Nordic Bronze Age circa 1400 BCE (see Allentoft 2015 above).

Y-DNA Haplogroup I1

Haplogroup I is the oldest major haplogroup in Europe and in all probability the only one that originated there (apart from very minor haplogroups like C1a2 and deep subclades of other haplogroups). Haplogroup IJ would have arrived from the Middle East to Europe some 35,000 years ago, then developed into haplogroup I soon afterwards. It has now been confirmed by ancient DNA test that the first Homo sapiens to colonize Europe during the Aurignacian period (45,000 to 28,000 years ago), belonged to haplogroups CT, C1a, C1b, F and I.

Y-DNA haplogroup N1c in Scandinavia

Before the arrival of N1c1 in Fennoscandia, the Nordic ancestors of the Saami would have belonged to Y-haplogroups I* and I2, and to mt-haplogroups U5b and V.

Origin of Y-DNA Haplogroup I1

It is estimated that the I1 branch bifurcated from the rest of haplogroup I some 27,000 years ago. I1 is defined by over 300 unique mutations, which indicates that this lineage experienced a serious population bottleneck. Most of the Late Glacial and Mesolithic remains tested to date belonged to haplogroup I* or I2.
It is not yet clear in which part of Europe I1 originated. It has been speculated that I1 evolved in isolation in Scandinavia during the late Upper Paleolithic and Mesolithic periods, when hunter-gatherers from southern Europe recolonised the northern half of the continent from their Last Glacial Maximum refugia.
The oldest attested evidence of postglacial resettlement of Scandinavia dates from 11,000 BCE with the appearance of the Ahrensburg culture. However, five Y-DNA samples from Mesolithic Sweden, dating from c. 5800 to 5000 BCE and tested by Lazaridis et al. (2013) and Haak et al. (2015) all turned out to belong to haplogroup I2.

Vikings DNA ! I1 or I-M253 ?

Y-chromosome haplogroup R1a1 has been considered as a possible marker for Viking migrations because of its high frequency in peninsular Scandinavia (Norway and Sweden). ... These differences between autosomal and Y-chromosomal histories suggest either male-specific contribution, or the influence of patrilocality.

https://dna-explained.com/2020/09/18/442-ancient-viking-skeletons-h...

Phillip ek gaan jou relaas met aandag lees,wat my nou "Tickel"is lewendige Dna waar my voorvader gestationeer was in 1726.[Batavia.. OP jou noorweegse punt die geskiedenis tot voor die Romeinse tyd bevestig.jou stelling.Voor ek herhaal gaan ek eers wegbreek.Interesante onderwerp die DNA

Fanie -- 2003 grafte van gladiators in York , England opgegrawe. Van 2de en 3de eeu .Nommer b2 van hulle my familie of selfs moontlik voorsaat . Alles met DNA.

Year ago got excited saw someone surname Weyers on FTDNA with YDNA R-M269 same as me.
Family!
Alas not ; more than 3000 years separated us.

Phillip ek het dalk n paar visse aan lyn-hul wil weet van DNS toets.,Waar het jy getoets?Die adres en prys sal waardeer word..
Die Vikings in britanje-hulle was in nou kontak met Veere-my DBS spoel so oor !!

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