Elsa wasn’t Meyer (Marcus) Orentlicherman wife she was his first born daughter, Meyer’s wife was Muriel Zellner born the 15th of May 1880 possibly in Proskurow, Ukraine and died the 1st of January 1990 in Kings County NY. Elsa was born October 30th, 1901 in Russia to Muriel and Meyer she was the first born out of 8 children. Elsa went on to marry Alex Kieles. (Possibly a professional tennis player.) She also worked at John Hopkins and was very successful. She is believed to be the one of the only 3 siblings who didn’t have children. The other two who aren’t believed to have children are Rennie who married Henry Steinman and Natalie who was the only sibling not known to have been married.