j.william tanaka - John Hawkes 1613 or 1617 and England vs Hadley

Started by j.william tanaka on Friday, October 22, 2021
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10/22/2021 at 2:54 AM

I am very interested in documentation regarding John Hawkes cited as being from Hingham, England born 1613 and also cited as being born in Hadley, MA. born 1617. I've seen parents cited with different names. Among the citations and stories, none are convincing. Some claim he appeared on a boat manifest in 1630. If we follow the boat travel with birth year 1613, then he came at age 17, which makes a better story for me, than if he traveled over the Atlantic at age 13. Given the only parentage for him is cited as being in England and his mother dying in 1626 in one story line, it makes zero sense she would have come to America to give birth to John in Hadley, MA and returned to England with her husband who is also cited as dying in England, and leaving him alone. A great story line laying claim to the citing that know one knows from whence he came but we can state he eventually moved to Hadley, MA where he is buried. Similar story lines are cited for his wife Elizabeth for which her surname is arguably Browne and controversy stirs about this as well but more toward the argument of it and less about convincing evidence that it is not. Evidence does show she married a Hinsdale and later a Dibble. I don't find no wrong in this as it was the practice and known survival custom of the time. But I would really enjoy a collaboration that as evidence from written documentation from more than one source. I've had to read a dozen or more books and stories to be convinced the lineage of John Hawkes is trustworthy enough to pursue and record. Some have done a spectacular job with their work and I applaud you because we agree on many points and aspects. That makes me feel better about the family tree. I am more inclined to collaborate with those who leave room for change if evidence appears and is worth scrutinizing. I have difficulty in those who think they've written the gospel and that their work cannot possibly be wrong. Let's see how this goes.

10/22/2021 at 3:04 AM

Apologies for the misuse of the American English language and typo's, as I am not able to edit the piece. I left a sentence or two in questionable phraseology, "I don't find no wrong in this" should read "I find no wrong in this". I'll try to be mindful of these discussion pieces before hitting the post reply button.

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