Thomasine Tendering (Sidney) - Dates of birth and death

Well that certainly changes tree dating!

One more reference, easier on modern eyes.

• Gentleman's Magazine, Or Monthly Intelligencer, Volume 33 By Sylvanus Urban (pseud. van Edward Cave.). Page 605. GoogleBooks. Thomasine Sidney, wife of William Tendering, died with issue, 1485.

Have to look at husband and daughter dates now.

http://www.oxford-shakespeare.com/Probate/PROB_11-39_ff_74-5.pdf

This also helps. Adding missing daughter.

The testator married Margaret Tendring, the daughter of William Tendring (d.1500) of Stoke by Nayland, Suffolk, and Thomasine Sidney (d. 4 October 1485). See ‘Genealogy Report’, supra, p. 21.

Margaret Tendring was the sister of Dorothy Tendring, who married firstly Francis Southwell (d.1512) of Norfolk, Auditor of the Exchequer, son of Richard Southwell by his first wife, Amy Wichingham. See the will of Sir Robert Southwell (c.1506 – 26 October 1559), TNA PROB 11/43/577, and Gunn, Steven, Henry VII’s New Men and the Making of Tudor England, (Oxford: Oxford University Press, 2016), p. xx at:

https://books.google.ca/books?id=q4LADAAAQBAJ&pg=PR20

Dorothy Tendring married secondly Sir(?) John Peryent (died c.1552), second son of Thomas Peryent, esquire, and Mary Brockett of Wheathampstead, Hertfordshire.

See the pedigree of Perient of Digswell in Metcalfe, Walter C., The Visitations of Hertfordshire (London: Harleian Society, 1886), Vol. XXII, pp. 156-7 at:

https://archive.org/stream/visitationsofher222732cook#page/n173/mod...

To describe the link:

http://www.oxford-shakespeare.com/Probate/PROB_11-39_ff_74-5.pdf

SUMMARY: The document below is the Prerogative Court of Canterbury copy of the will, dated 25 November 1555 [sic] and proved 10 April 1557, of Robert Forster (c.1482- 1545), esquire, of Little Birch, Essex, whose grandson, William Forster, was related by marriage to the family which owned the Blackfriars gatehouse purchased in 1613 by William Shakespeare of Stratford upon Avon.

I’m uncertain of the origins of Robert Foster of Birch in Essex, Esq. so left it off. He married Margaret Forster

Slightly different death date here:

• https://www.flickr.com/photos/52219527@N00/14248734873/ Thomasine Tendring and her 7 children - 5 who died in her lifetime are wrapped in shrouds like her. She died 16th January 1485

She was one of the daughters of William Sidney d1453 of Kingsham and Penshurst, 2nd husband of Tomasine d1498 heiress daughter of John Barrington of Rayleigh by Isabel Tattam / Totton (+++Thomasine had m1 William Lunsford m3 John Hopton.

Can we read her date from the photos here?

https://www.flickr.com/photos/52219527@N00/14248734873/

Done.

Can you look at the Tendring parent dates? They’ve gone a little crazy.

History of Parliament online doesn’t have him yet. So far this is what I got:

In 1499 a William Tendring left the profits of a tenement called Lucas (Lukes) to the priest for the time being to do service in the church of Our Lady in Little Birch for 21 years, especially in remembrance of the souls of William and his family. --- The undertenancy of little Birch Hall was held in 1276 from the Gernons by a Robert Verley and from 1325 or earlier by the Tendring family. William Tendring (1435-90) of Little Birch was MP Maldon, Essex 1478. [VCH would seem to imply he was father of this William, died abt 1500, who was father of Dorothy.]

Sources
Family: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ancestors...

https://gw.geneanet.org/lard?lang=en&n=tendringe&oc=0&p=william

Birch: Manors', in A History of the County of Essex: Volume 10, Lexden Hundred (Part) Including Dedham, Earls Colne and Wivenhoe, ed. Janet Cooper (London, 2001), pp. 44-46. British History Online http://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/essex/vol10/pp44-46 [accessed 18 August 2021].

This explains how Little Birch Manor came to the Forster family.

I think it was William the father who was the MP, and William d 1499 was father of Dorothy Tendring later Southwell.