Philip English - This family needs work

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Jean Pain (ou Pin)

Ryan Bonsell - can you help re: the Browne son in law problem?

It does not look like William Browne (son of Hannah Collins & John Browne) married Mary English:

https://wc.rootsweb.com/trees/238233/I5868/-/registry

This site is usually reliable - they show 8 children.

https://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php/Philip_English

Name change

Philippe crossed the Atlantic at the age of 19 and promptly changed his name to Philip English when he joined a group of Jerseymen who had already settled in Salem. He took lodgings with a merchant, William Hollingworth, and married his daughter Mary on 1 September 1675 and from 1676 to 1692 he traded with Bilboa, Barbados, St Christophers, Jersey and French ports. She died in 1694 and he died on 13 March 1736. They had eight children: Mary, born 21 February 1677, married William Brown; William, born 23 May 1679, died young; Susanna, born 5 July 1682, died young; Philip, born 4 September 1684, who was owner of the Blue Anchor Tavern on the corner of Derby and English streets and married Mary Ellis; Susanna, born 11 February 1686, who married John Touzel; William, born 7 April 1690, who followed his father as a mariner and died in 1716; John, living in 1746 and also a mariner; Ebenezer, born 21 April 1694.

Philip snr built a house on the corner of Essex and English streets in Salem in 1683. It was popularly called English’s “great” house and remained in the family until 1749. A family tragedy gave him a good start to his career as a merchant because he inherited his father-in-law's substantial fortune when he was killed fighting Indians.

If the ou Pin isn’t spurious, he’s from a 2nd wife, Sara Ingersoll.

I’m getting William Brown of Ipswich as marrying Ipswich gal and I think your Hannah Hobart didn’t have a William Browne son?

Need Emily Marget to deep dive into Salem, Beverly & Ipswich VR for us.

So how does your Brown fit in?

A BROWNE clue:

http://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php?title=A_Jerseyman_in_New_Eng...

“ ... there was a close connexion between Jersey and Salem, a little settlement in Massachusetts, that had only been founded in 1629. A contract of 1661 survives “between John Browne, Nicholas Balhach, and John Balhach, merchants of Jersey, and William Stevens, shipbuilder in Salem, for a new ship 68 feet in length, to be built for £3 5s a ton”; and John Browne settled in Salem to superintend the trading business from that end. It is said that a hill in the town, now called Bellyhak Hill, was originally named by him after his two partners.“

“One of his descendants was Joseph Hodges Choate, the famous American lawyer, who was United States Ambassador to Great Britain. ..”

Joseph Hodges Choate, U.S. Ambassador to the United Kingdom

Philip (L'Anglois) English, Escaped Salem Witch is Joseph Hodges Choate, U.S. Ambassador to the United Kingdom's fourth great grandfather.

(So we got it right so far)
https://www.geni.com/path/Joseph-Hodges-Choate-U-S-Ambassador-to-the-United-Kingdom+is+related+to+Philip-English-Escaped-Salem-Witch?from=6000000014984290450&path_type=blood&to=6000000015614015955

William Browne, a wealthy Salem merchant, representative in the Massachusetts legislature, and member of the Governor’s Council, purchased the hill for the location of a fine country estate. In 1740 he built “Browne Hall,” an 80-foot long mansion that consisted of two wings connected by a central entrance hall. The house was extravagantly furnished and built in a neoclassical style, with columns around the main doors and the floors painted to look like a mosaic.

An opulent palace for a wealthy man, this house on the summit of the hill was visible for miles – but its precarious location atop the hill was its downfall. ..

https://spectersofsalemvillage.com/tag/conant-street/

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/178045405/william-browne

So Perley, historian for Salem, shows John Browne, master mariner, married 1) Hannah Hubbard 2) Hannah Collins - this is after we separated the Hannah’s.

And son William, of Hannah Collins, b 1677, also a mariner, married Mary English with 2 children.

Unless there’s a recent NEHGR study I wouldn’t argue with Perley much …

https://www.wikitree.com/photo/jpg/Archer-507