Sarah Greenfield Mullins (Cathey) - Problems with this MP

Started by Private User on Wednesday, June 30, 2021
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Private User
6/30/2021 at 3:19 AM

In this branch of the Cathey tree, I couldn't help but notice that William Cathey, Sr has 4 daughters all named "Sarah". Two of the four are married, to different men (one who died in NC, the other in West Virginia). The other two Sarahs are unmarried, and none of the dates match up precisely.

By the way, West Virginia (not Virginia) should probably be the death and burial locations for this profile and her spouse, since evidently both are buried in WV.

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/126111601/sarah-greenfield-mullins

There is a pending merge on this profile.

https://www.geni.com/search/matches?id=6000000008529649345&src=...

At one time she was disconnected from one set of parents:

Archibald Cathey

Sarah Greenfield

...And later somehow acquired the current ones, which are doubtful, imho. I may have missed it, but I haven't seen any proof that William Cathey and Rebeccah Holman are her real parents. In fact I haven't seen any proof at all for her parentage. And if her birth location is actually Virginia or SC (rather than NC, like all the other siblings), then I don't see how that is possible.

Would appreciate any help or advise I can get for sorting out this family. The sons look okay to me (no conflicts, anyway), and I merged the two Margarets, who is a proven daughter for this William Cathey. But the 4 Sarahs, 3 Anns (one married to "Mr. Allen"), and 2 Elizabeths (one married to William Mehaffey who also has a pending merge on his profile) -- with lots of variations in birth and death dates -- has me a little worried.

https://www.geni.com/search/matches?id=6000000002518883327&src=...

We have to be careful not to confuse this William Cathey with his cousin William who was also recognized by the DAR. The relevant DAR page for our discussion is here:

https://services.dar.org/public/dar_research/search_adb/?action=ful...

I would suggest, particularly in light of the fact that they already have another married daughter by the same name, disconnecting this profile, Sarah Greenfield (Cathy) Mullins, from her current parents (William and Rebecca). And then I would either reunite her with the pair linked above ("Archibald Cathey" and "Sarah Greenfield", which are no less proven than what she has now, as far as I know) -- or just leave it blank until we can find a good source for proof.

Private User
6/30/2021 at 4:33 AM

I forgot to link the duplicate that probably should be merged with this profile.

Sarah Greenfield Mullins (Cathey)

Private User
6/30/2021 at 4:37 AM

I just noticed that her husband's profile actually has three duplicate wives, the one already linked without parents, and this one with a completely different set of parents. So far, three different theories of parentage for this individual (four if you count "unknown").

Sarah Greenfield Mullins (Cathey)

9/25/2021 at 10:36 AM

Still issues with the family group.
Is she in the right place?


Daughter of William Cathey, I and Rebecca Cathey (Holeman)
Wife of Solomon 'Counterfeitin' Mullins
Mother of Elijah Mullins; Peter Mullins; John Alexander Mullins; Jane Johnson (Mullens); Dicy Adams (Mullins) and 7 others
Sister of George Barius Cathey, Sr.; Daniel H. Cathey; Andrew D. Cathey; William Cathey, II; James N. Cathey, I and 12 others

9/25/2021 at 10:36 AM

Sister of George Barius Cathey, Sr.; Daniel H. Cathey; Andrew D. Cathey; William Cathey, II; James N. Cathey, I; Jacob Cathey; John Cathey; Margaret Cathey; Ann Cathey; Sarah Cathey; Elizabeth Cathey; Thomas Andrew Cathey; Jacob Cathey; Sarah Ann Cathey; Ann Cathey; Ann Cathey and Elizabeth ( Betsey ) Cathey « less

Private User
9/25/2021 at 11:04 AM

I'm not sure, Cynthia. I'm more familiar with the Tennessee Catheys. They are a big family with lots of cousins, many sharing the same given names. The only source I see for this family group is William's DAR file, which states explicitly in the commentary: "THIS MAN WAS NOT THE WILLIAM CATHEY BAPT IN AUGUSTA CO VA IN APR 1741."

So it looks like the ancestor number on the Geni profile (A134804) doesn't actually belong with this William. Beyond that I can see there are big problems, particularly with lack of documentation of facts and duplicates -- but have no basis on which to make any changes.

We need marriage records. And an 1850 census listing Sarah (Cathey) Mullins, within which we might find additional Cathey, Mullins, or even Greenfield families who could be her relatives.

Private User
9/25/2021 at 11:40 AM

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/14321570/george-barius-cathey

Cynthia Curtis, A183502, US7875087 Here's the 1850 census for Sarah Greenfield (Cathey) Mullins. I forgot that parts (or more likely, all) of what are now W. Virginia were once in Virginia. It's just 73 pages, so a quick browse might find some Catheys in the same community who may be related to her.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6SF7-S7G?i=46&...

Getting this particular William Cathey family group ironed out could be quite a project.

Private User
9/25/2021 at 11:54 AM

Checked the rest of the census for Boone Co.; didn't see any more Catheys or Mullins (or Greenfields, either).

Private User
9/25/2021 at 11:52 PM

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Cathey-49

https://gmcathey.wordpress.com/2009/01/19/major-william-cathey-411/

"The other William (son of Andrew) was born ca April 1741 for he was baptized on 26 Apr 1741 at the Augusta Stone Presbyterian Church in Augusta Co, VA. The baptismal record shows William as a child of Andrew Cathey."

Jacob Holeman

Since Jabob Holeman's daughter, Rebecca Holeman/Holman is connected with Augusta County, VA (like our William Cathey), I think she is most likely the one who was our William Cathey's wife (assuming the dates match up). The matter is complicated by the fact that some genealogists think there may have been more than one William Cathey/Rebecca Holman marriage (the other one occurring in NC).

http://www.wvancestry.com/ReferenceMaterial/Files/Chronicles_of_the...

"Cathey vs. Brown——O.S. 184; N. S. 65-—Bill 1811. In 1783 Jacob Holman made his will in Shenandoah and shortly afterwards died. Orator William Cathey married the widow in December, 1784. Jacob’s daughter, Rebecca, married John Martin. Martin died and orator took the widow and children to live with him. Then Rebecca died. Orator moved to Kenawha... Elizabeth, Hannah and John being children of Rebeccah Martin. Will of Jacob Holman of Shenandoah County dated 26th October, 1783. Wife, Margaret; sons, Daniel, Andrew, Jacob Herod Holeman; daughters, Elizabeth Dobkin, Rachel Holeman; daughters, Rebecca, Mary Ann."

Revolutionary War MUSTERS OF AUGUSTA COUNTY (VA):

CAPT. JAMES CATHEY’s List: James Cathey, Captain; John Given, John Case, Andr. Case, Will Brown, David Logan, John Case, Sam Case, Thos. Stephenson, David Stephenson, John McClewer, Joseph Hanna, John Frame, Hugh Camble, Michel Dickey, Nichel Leeper, Sam Hues, Rob. Craig, Wm. Monson, William Johston, James Givens, David Nelson, Rob. Koney, James Fowler, Edw. Givens, James Case, George Anderson, Nathan Underwood, George Anderson, James Scott, ANDREW CATHEY, Francis Raley, John McCown, John King, Robert Joweter, Rob Brown, Rob. McDowell, Wm. Hains, James Allan, Jams. Chambers, Sam Givens, Thos. Lander (Lauder), Archabel Hamilton.

These Catheys of Augusta County, Virginia, are not represented on the DAR website, as far as I can tell.

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