Rabbi Moshe, of Ellenbogen - KATZENELLENBOGEN

I do not believe so.
I did not see a reference to them being Leviim.
And KATZENELLENBOGEN has nothing to do with Katz and evertthing to do with a region in Germany.

I know a rabbi from the Katzenlenbogen family and he writes his last name: Halevi Katzenlenbogen

The main line of the Katzenellenbogen / Katzenellenpogen family are Israel.

Unrelated to the topic, though worthwhile sharing:

https://avotaynuonline.com/2016/03/y-dna-genetic-signature-ethnic-o...

Joshua Kunken Great research article!

I have all the Moshe Katzenellenbogen@My heritage

I have Rabi Moshe of Ellenbogen - Katzenellenbogen on my Heritage.
I am not computer savy .
Not sure how to transport the information to this discussion.

Linda Barnett Goldenstein Are you referring to this person?
Rabbi Moshe, of Ellenbogen?

He's also my direct ancestor.
Do you have further information on him?

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I am also a descendant of:
Rabbi Moshe, of Ellenbogen?
And he has, in my estimation, many thousands of descendants living today.

But, I would love to know where the information about Rabbi Moshe of Ellenbogen comes from, does anyone have a reference about his existence...

In all the information accessible to me, I could not find verification of his existence

Could not find anything on him

I am a direct ancestor of the Katzenellenbogen.

Errol if you send me your email address you can look at my family tree on My Heritage.
I know I have Robinson connections, nice to meet you.

He was born in Germany Haim.

He is my 14th great grand father.

His father Saul was born in Poland and he was made “King of the day”

Linda Barnett Goldenstein

Do you have any mention of its existence in rabbinic literature?

Linda Barnett Goldenstein

You are confusing the generations, he was (assuming there really was a person with that name) an ancestor of Shaul Whal

I have this from Geni and My heritage

Linda Barnett Goldenstein

from my branch:

https://www.geni.com/path/Haim-Wartski-Hachoen+is+related+to+Rabbi-...

Linda Barnett Goldenstein

Rabbi Shaul Whal had a son named Moshe Meir, but Rabbi Moshe of Ellenbogen (the subject of the discussion here) is an ancestor of Shaul Whal

If you look at Chabad literature there is an article about this very subject.
You can find it on line.

Linda Barnett Goldenstein what Haim is saying, is that these family trees you see on MyHeritage and also here with a big asterisk, are "speculative" family trees that are mostly base on propagated errors, and don't really have any substantiation with documented evidence.
The Rabbi Moshe we're talking about here has no evidence of existence except for legend.
Sometimes there is written evidence, not all old documents are digitized, so there is always a chance someone knows something we don't. If you come across something substantial, please follow up.

I don’t know what to say.
The katzenellenberger in Padua and Venice also stories.
I don’t think so!

I will try to refine my words:
all the information up to Rabbi Yitzchak (including) - the father of the Maharam of Padua is certain information and is based on very many sources

On the other hand, I did not see in any source accessible to me that Yitzchak's father was Rabbi Moshe of Ellenbogen, and I searched a lot to try and continue the family tree as far back as possible