William Knightley of Norwich - Parents? Take a crack at it!

Начала Erica Howton среда, 21 апреля 2021
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21.4.2021 в 1:30 до полудня

Conflicting sources.

“ SUMMARY: The document below is the Prerogative Court of Canterbury copy of the last will and testament, dated 1 May 1518 and proved 22 January 1519, of John Danyell, esquire, of Felsted, Essex, servant of John de Vere (1442-1513), 13th Earl of Oxford.

The testator’s nephews, ‘Doctor Knightley and William Knightley, his brother’, appear to have been the sons of Sir Thomas Knightley of Bent, Staffordshire.”

This is supported by the Visitation of Essex and by Stirnet. Thomas Knightley of Bent

However, “According to Rye, William Knightley “was the son of John Knightley and grandson of John Knightley of Calais, who died 1451. At this point I have not sought to verify this statement; however, a brief survey of available information suggests the Knightley line may extend, if proven, several generations before this William Knightley.“ William Knightley was the son of John Knightley and Maria Daniell (daughter of Thomas Daniell, miles).”

This is supported by the Knightley Pedigree:

https://www.google.com/books/edition/Miscellanea_genealogica_et_her...

Where else to look?

23.4.2021 в 12:06 до полудня

Ok I spelled the site MyHeritage wrong - sorry, my cat was trying to help.

23.4.2021 в 6:49 до полудня

So the ancestry tree offers yet another set of parents:

Family

Parents
Richard Knightley, Sheriff of Northampshire IV
1455–1534
Lady Johanna/Jane/Joan Skenard Knightly
1461–1539

Citing several records

Ancestry Family Trees
England & Wales, Christening Index, 1530-1980
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Norfolk, England, Church of England Baptism, Marriages, and Burials, 1535-1812
UK and Ireland, Find A Grave Index, 1300s-Current
UK, Extracted Probate Records, 1269-1975

So let’s see if they validate the configuration.

23.4.2021 в 6:50 до полудня

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/168672667/thomas-knightley (Without citation) has

Sir Thomas Knightley of Bent, Staffordshire, England

Family Members
Parents
John Knightley
1417–1442
Children
Matthew Knightley
1485–1561
William Knightley
1486–1548

23.4.2021 в 6:51 до полудня

William Knightley
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Name: William Knightley
Event Type: Burial
Death Date: abt 1548
Burial Date: 13 Feb 1548
Burial Place: St Peter Parmentergate, Norwich, Norfolk, England

(Doesn’t help for Parents)

23.4.2021 в 6:52 до полудня

Again, not helping for parents

UK, Extracted Probate Records, 1269-1975
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Name: Knightley, Kinghtleye, William Wymer
Dates: 1548
Place: Norwich, Norfolk, England
Book: Marriages (Marriage)
Collection: Norfolk: Norwich - 1. Index to Wills, Consistory Court of Norwich, 1370-1550 2. Wills among the Norwich Enrolled Deeds, 1286-1508
Volume: Wills Proved in the Consistory Court of Norwich and now Preserved in the District Probate Registry at Norwich
Chapter: 1370 to 1550
Text: 1548 Knightley, Kinghtleye, William, Norwich, gent. 204 to 206 Wymer

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=1610&h=1875404...

25.4.2021 в 7:59 после полудня

I tried! It crazy how many different "facts" are out on one person. I've run into this problem a lot. Good luck!

25.4.2021 в 9:46 после полудня

Fun, right?

So far I’m sticking with this source:

http://www.oxford-shakespeare.com/Probate/PROB_11-19_f_102.pdf

SUMMARY: The document below is the Prerogative Court of Canterbury copy of the last will and testament, dated 1 May 1518 and proved 22 January 1519, of John Danyell, esquire, of Felsted, Essex, servant of John de Vere (1442-1513), 13th Earl of Oxford.

The testator’s nephews, ‘Doctor Knightley and William Knightley, his brother’, appear to have been the sons of Sir Thomas Knightley of Bent, Staffordshire. See: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/168672667/thomas-knightley

The testator’s nephew, William Knightley (d. 27 January 1548?), married firstly Margaret Pawe, and secondly Agnes Hare. His daughter, Winifred Knightley, was the mother of Sir Edward Coke. See Boyer, Allen, D., Sir Edward Coke and the Elizabethan Age, (Stanford: Stanford University Press, 2003), p. 2 at: https://books.google.ca/books?id=lkEv6eccC44C&pg=PA2

25.4.2021 в 9:48 после полудня

The “testator” must have been a (brother) of Margaret Knightley

25.4.2021 в 10:58 после полудня

I think you're right to stick with the will!

25.4.2021 в 11:09 после полудня

So apparently the Daniels were an “interesting” family.

Quite a bit about them here:

https://prattens.co.uk/THOMAS/THOMAS.HTML

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