Gerberia of Lorraine - Gerberia doesn't exist.

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Curatorial hypocrisy/inconsistency with regard to Medieval profiles, case in point: It is infuriating after devoting weeks of my time researching and debating the case of wife of Gothelo “the Great” only to discover more than a year later that this happened mere weeks after the Princess of Italy was so coldly dismissed and tossed aside like trash.

https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gozelo_I_van_Lotharingen

"Gozelo was married to possibly Gerberia."

Who is Gerberia? She appears to be a figment of the imagination. Yet Junca was documented by a respectable, high-ranking church chronicler who actually specialized in the genealogy and history of those noble families. Yet this nobody phantom has been allowed to take her place.

We find 94 Gerberga’s on Geni, most of them in the 10th century

https://www.geni.com/search?search_type=people&names=Gerberga

There is even a Gerberga of Ivrea, which could be the same person as Junca.

Could be fixed right away, it seems.

from *https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000120672278821

..we "are not responsible for how ONE keep playing changing that profile name NN alis Junca, or Urraca in the texts of the South American Spaniards {[(probably for some unknown words game) they spanishize any line, exactly as the Anglo-Saxons do it] or do you think these are the original names of the popes? .."

..I forgot the NLs...

@ Debra here "everything is going to cow" I don't know if the translation gives the idea .. so in any case yes.

Indeed Livio is correct, Junca and Gozelo I (aka Gothelo) were also the documented parents of Pope Stephen IX.

Carl Gustav Verbraeken - see the discussion at wife of Gothelo “the Great”#.

The decision was made to have on Geni no profile at all linked as wife of Gothelo I "the Great", duke of Lorraine The former profIe with 30 managers was detached and isolated.

So we’re now confused to see a single manager profile by you only.

Carl this was before your time, I think, so you wouldn’t have known.

My suggestion is either to work with Sharon Doubell on how to deal with the disputed wife slot, or more simply, delete your profile.

https://www.geni.com/discussions/205730?msg=1352377 - better link to the discussion.

Another option is to follow what Leo van der Pas did at Genealogics - name her NN.

https://genealogics.org/getperson.php?personID=I00141434&tree=LEO

But If that decision is decided on. the other 30 managers should be allowed also. In other words, your profile merged to the Junca one.

30 ADMN --> 232 follower --> profile from 2009
multilingual (now fixed in "aliases" the languages not relevant)
multidocumented (any kind of hypertext link in info-about, discussions and documents)

M E R G E with a note of dispute!

Sharon Doubell as a manager of wife of Gothelo “the Great” who did also work on the project, I would indeed find It more courteous and more informative (most important of all) to rename her NN and merge. I don’t dispute that we don’t know her name, but currently I can’t see why it’s so with any ease. And we’re left open to more well intentioned errors in filing in a blank spot.

Leo van der Pas is one of my genealogist heroes. We can’t do wrong to follow his solutions, I have found.

Please go on and do what you think is reasonable. At the time of the "big discussion", I've read it without participating. There is just 1 profile of"Gerberia d'Ivrea" with 31 managers (I see nowhere a single manager profile by me only that could be deleted??????).detached and curated by Pablo-Romero-Curador Private User.

It's time for a good solution now.

.. And Gothelo is ready now to be reconnected to his wife Gerberia/Junca d'Ivrea.

I'm late here, and not sure what is being asked about wife of Gothelo “the Great”? It's not my profile - you want to rename it NN?

Seems reasonable to rename NN.

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