Falticeni Labor Camp

Hello,
I think you can find something in Jean Ancel's book.
People from Falticeni were also sent to forced labour, but I think the detachment was near Botosani.

If you are on Facebook, I would ask in this group..They are very knowledgeable about Falticeni and Botosani... and they have all the records! https://www.facebook.com/groups/1465078043774333

It is doubtful someone from Cernauti to be sent to the Old Kingdom. Those people were sent to the killing fields of Transnistria. Only Jews from Dorohoi judetz and South Bukovina were deported. Jewish males under the age of 40 were doing Labor, in most cities, including Bucuresti. The ones from Falticeni were at Calfa in Bessarabia.

Thanks Luc.....

Thanks, everyone. The information came from Jewish Gen and Yad Vashem. So shall I presume that it is wrong that he could not have been in Falticini? He was released from camp for medical reasons it said.

I am not questioning whether he was in FALTICENI. He was not deported to a camp in Falticeni. Seems he was lucky to be there and was doing LABOR. A little bit different than being sent to Transnistria ghettoes (Moghilau) or the concentration camps (Vapniarka, Pechora).

Thank you Luc. Is there a way to find out if he was a resident at Falticeni at that time? I contacted the facebook group but their records are do not cover the 20th century. I understand that there might be a fee which is fine.
Ilana

Our FB group has the PUBLIC civil records (older than 100 years). For 1940 the only available records I am aware of are : 1) Tabelele Barbatilor in 1942 which Jewishgen has acquired but that wont include your father and 2) The Census of 1940 to be requested from Romanian National Archives -- it does require the address. I think your best avenue is to ask Yad Vashem or Holocaust Museum in Washington DC for the supporting picture of the records they used.

According to Yad Vashems, names database my grandfather too was sent to forced labor in Falticeni in 1942 from Czernowitz. His name was Zelman Rosenberg.
According to how he filled out his claims conference application he stated that he was in Falitceni labor camp in 1941, Moved to Causani in 1942, Pascani in 1943 and Doaga in from 1943-45.
However, I found a slide he had of a card from an association of those deported to Transnistria, which states his camp as Moghilau. But according to the story he always told he was able to avoid Transnistria.

I do know his forced labor was in building roads, in quarries and fortresses/casemates, but I don't know in which location this occurred.

I was able to get the original list from USHMM and uploaded it to Rudolf Kranz profile. He is definitely on it. So can I find out more about the labor camp itself?

There was NO Labor Camp. When some was in a CAmp, the STREET ADDRESS where they live would not be listed (that is what I see on your documents) . All the people were living in Falticeni and had to provide LABOR. Again, there is no comparison whatsoever between this (all Jewish males between 18 and 40 were obligated to do this during the war) and the Transnistria ghettos or camps where people were dying. The fact that the Claiims Conference has recognized also such cases does not change the facts. And I note they recognized it only for people who lived in Israel or Germany, but not in Romania until very late when almost no one was alive.

I understand the people who lived in Falticeni had to provide labor. However, these people (Rudolf and Zelman etc..) where not living in Falticeni. They were living in Chernowitz, and were sent to work in Falticeni.
My grandfather and his entire family were in Chernowitz. I see on this list from Ilana grallert that my grandfathers nephew, Mendel Knoll also from Chernowitz is on this list. His address matches the address from Chernowitz.

Also on this list there is Scheier Rosenberg, My grandfather was Zelman Rosenberg, But from my research the address listed for Scheier Rosenberg is the same address my grandfather had in Chernowitz.

I understand that there was a difference with that of Transnistria, but they had to either keep transporting these men to Falticeni or they had to have housed them somewhere. So as suggested it must be that it was not a "traditional" camp.

Stand corrected re - Address. However this does not change the thrust of my point. Incidentally, a brother of my mother was married with a lawyer from Cernauti. When the war started they were in Bucuresti. She had old parents so went back to Cernauti. My uncle whose residence was Cernauti did labor in several places including Falticeni (per YV records). His wife and her parents perished at the quarries in Tulchin in Transnistria.

Hi Yakov,
I have two more pages that go with the list which I will upload later this morning. Thanks for your input and info.
Ilana