Edward Bolling - Confused Connections

Started by Debbie Gambrell on Wednesday, December 16, 2020
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12/16/2020 at 2:56 PM

I think these connections need more research and documentation. The About section states that this Edward Bolling married Jane Greene, not Magdelene Greene. I think there is confusion on same-name Edward and Tristam Bollings.

1) Edward Bolling b. 1516 d. 1543 who was the son of Tristam Bolling b.1490 c. 1542 and and his wife Beatrix Calverley was married to Magdelene Greene.

2) This Edward Bolling b. 1556 d. 1592 is the son of a different Tristam Bolling b. 1530 d. 1561 and his wife Anne Rookes

12/16/2020 at 3:04 PM

@Jane Bolling

The About section specifcally states not to confuse Jane with Magdalina:

Do not confuse with Magdalina Greene, wife of Edward Bolling (1516-1543). Both had Gabriel Greene as father, but the two Gabriels are of different generations. Both married an Edward Bolling but different generations.

Jane Greene was born about 1570 in Bradford, Yorkshire, England, and died in 1592. She was most likely the daughter of Gabriel Greene and wife Margaret (or Marjorie) Lister (or Lyster). She married Edward Bolling at Chellow, Yorkshire, England about 1570, in Chellow, Yorkshire, England. Edward Bolling was the son of Tristam Bolling and wife Anne Rookes. He was born in 1560 in Bradford and died in 1592 in Chellow, England.

And yet...she is listed as Magdalina rather than Jane....

12/16/2020 at 3:30 PM

This is another profile for Magdaline (Greene) Bolling

Magdaline Maud Bolling

12/16/2020 at 3:44 PM

Curator notes: Curator Note from Maria Edmonds-Zediker, Volunteer Curator (1/6/2012):
Edward Bolling (1560-1592) was born in Bradford, Yorkshire, England and died in Chellow, England. He was the son of Tristam Bolling and wife Anne Rookes. He married Jane Greene about 1570 in Chellow, Yorkshire, England.

And yet she remains as Magdaline

12/16/2020 at 4:06 PM

More quesstions! This site:

http://www.thewhitegoddess.co.uk/articles/history/bolling_hall.asp

States that Tristam Bolling and Beatrix Calverley only had one child, Rosamund Bolling Tempest:

The Hall was now back in the possession of the Bolling family, on the death of Robert Bolling in 1537, his son Tristram inherited the estates, he then later married Beatrice Carverley. They had one child Rosamund, who on her marriage to Richard Tempest in 1497 received Bolling Hall and the lands as part of her dowry. On the death of her father she inherited the estate. Thus Bolling Hall passed to the Tempest family.

If that's true, then who were the parents of the Edward Bolling who was married to Magdaline Greene? It says Tristam 'later married' Beatrix Calverley, so did he have a prevoius wife who was that Edward's mother?

12/16/2020 at 4:30 PM

I keep finding more info. This profile:

Tristram Bolling, of Chello

Indicates Tristam who was married to Beatrix Calverley actually di have another wife who 'may' have been the mother of Edward. This except indicates the diffilculty in placing that Edward with this Tristam and making it clear that Elizabeth Calverley wasn't his mother.

He (Tristam) married a second time, to 'Elyne,' as mentioned in his will. Some say this marriage produced his only son Edward, but its just here say and there’s no real clear evidence because we haven’t found Edwards birth record that clears up this confusion that Beatrix Calverley isn’t his mother because no one understands why he gave most of his estates to his daughter Roseamund,so they assume he is a son from a different mother.

12/16/2020 at 4:37 PM

Tada!

We give a copy of his will below on account of its quaintness of spelling and the information it contains:--

Child of Tristam Bolling of Chellow and wife Beatrix Calverley:

Rosamund Bolling, married Sir Richard Tempest, three known sons
Child of Tristam Bolling of Chellow and wife Elyne:

Edward Bolling, 1516-1543, married Magdaline Greene
Will of Tristram Bolling, of Chellow

April 7, 1502. Proved August 2, 1502

I, Tristram Bolling, of Chellow, to be buryd in the high quere of my parish church of Bradforth, and I bequeath in honour of my mortuary my best horse wt. sadyll & brydll, jake, salet, bowe and harnes, sword and bockler, as I went to the warr.

I bequeath unto the aulter of Synt Kateryn afore the image of King Henry the vj. one vestment with albe preist iijs. iiijd. To one priest for saying for my saule xxs. and li. wax to be brend upon my sepulture, and iiijd. for the wast of every torch brynnyng about my body the day of my buryall. To every man beyryng me to the church iiijd.

I will yet all my manners, lands &c., being my inheritance after the decease of Robert Bolling my fader or any other tytll of right here-after remayne after my decease unto Richard Tempest and Rosamunde my doghter and wyff unto the said Richard and to ther heyrs forever mor.

I will that my wyff Elyne during her lyve have a yearly rent for her thirds out of my said manners, &c.

To my son Edward Bolling all my lands purchased in the toun of Bradford except a messe, and one tenement lying beside the parich chirch, which I will remayn unto Thos. Tempest, son of Richard Tempest aforesaid.

To the said Thos. Tempest one messe soom tyme in the holdynge of Allison Dyn-Gurd.

To John Tempest, son unto ye said Richard Tempest, one tenement called Rowley and one tenement in Thornton beside Bradford newly bylded.

I wyll that Edwd. Robertshaw take half a coile pytt at Clayton dewring one yere, and my wyff the other half, and then the said coile pytt to remayne to the foresaid Rich. Tempest and hys wyff.

I order as executors Nicholas Tempest, Edward Bollynge, and Cudberd Lenthrope, my son Richard Tempest being superviseare.

Giffen at Chellow. Pro. 3 June, 1502'

It DOES appear that the Edward who married Magdalina Greene (not Jane Greene) was the son of Tristam Bolling and wife Elyne.

In addition to duplciate profiles on Magdaline, there are duplicates on Edward. Here is the other one on him:

Edward Bolling

12/16/2020 at 4:41 PM

Also, per the info on Jane vs. Magadalina Greene, it is stated that Jane was the one who was the daughter of Gabriel Greene and Margaret Lister, not Magdalina. However, it is stated that Magdalina's father was also named Gabriel but no mother is given for her. So more same-name confusion on the Gabriel Greenes, which I haven't even tried to sort out at this time.

8/29/2022 at 10:44 AM

Private User helped needed. I originally posted on this profile in 2020 and find myself back here and notice no one ever responded.

The curator notes state:

Edward Bolling (1516-1543) was born in 1516 in Chellow, Yorkshire, England and died there. He was the son of Tristam Bolling of Chellow and second wife Elyne.

And yet the 2nd wife Elyne mentioned as his mother isn't the one connected to him. So which is actually correct?

Thanks in advance for any assistance / corrections, etc.

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