Wilhelmina Petronella Christina Botha (van den Berg), b1c7d10e6 - AKA Petronella Christina van den Berg

Started by Zena Opperman on Tuesday, December 15, 2020
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12/15/2020 at 2:06 PM

Hi, I think the linked husband is not the correct one
her death notice
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS3J-H37M-R?i=94&a...
death notice signed by her 2nd husband
Note: Names of parents are J J van den Berg and A M Botha (AM Botha is the name of her grandmother)

1st husband (Johannes Lodewicus Petrus Botha) death notice
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS3F-NSVC-N?i=785&...
1st husbands mothers (Anna Margarita Catarina Smit) death notice - wherein he is shown as deceased and his childrens names are listed - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS92-ZWK8-7?i=450&...

Child of 1st husband and Petronella
Johannes Lodewicus Petrus c1862 (a Female - refer to following link for mothers distribution list)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS3J-H379-6?i=100&...

2nd husband death notice
https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/188051?availability=Family+...

12/16/2020 at 1:14 AM

My info:-

Baptism, 13 Apr 1828, Cradock - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSV8-7XPQ?i=129&am... =994807

Her name is given as Willemina Petronella Christina van den Berg

She appears in the Voortrekker registers as Petronella Christina van den Berg.

In SAG p. 226 she is Wilhelmina Petronella Christina van den Berg who is the daughter of Jan Josua v d Berg and Petronella Christina Eliza (Elizabeth) Smit.

No other Petronella Christina under "van den Berg".

She appears in SAG under her husband's name i.e. Johannes Lodewikus Petrus Botha.

Will TAB MHG 0/20308, 1869 gives name as Petronella Christina https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS3F-NSF1-P?i=782&... & https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS3F-NSV6-H?i=783&... & https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS3F-NSF5-6?i=784&... & https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS3F-NSVC-N?i=785&... (latter includes names of children - Alwyn Petrus; Anna Margaretha; Susanna Christina; Jan Josua; Johannes Lodewikus Petrus)

She and her husband are included on her daughter Anna Catharina Marguerite's death notice (my 2x great grandmother) MHG 81106, 1933 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSS5-NTVC?i=1808&a...

Her name on her daughter Johanna Cathrina's baptismal record is Petronella Christina van den Berg.

12/16/2020 at 2:51 PM

Hello, thank you for all the additional links. I have no doubts regarding all the information and the name of her husband and her children as I have also researched.

I apologise if I was not clear ' I think the linked husband is not the correct one'
but my doubt is which one of the many 'Johannes Lodewicus Petrus Botha' she was married to. The one she is linked to in Geni I do not think is the right one hence my inclusion of the death notice links.

12/17/2020 at 7:30 AM

Perused your links. Well done. I see what you mean!

Mother's death notice mentions he is deceased and his children are Alewyn Petrus; Anna Catarina M x Floris Visser; Jan Josua; Johannes Lodewikus Petrus and a girl child Hanse (?) - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS92-ZWNL-W?i=451&...

Puts a whole new shine on him. Who is his wife?

12/17/2020 at 11:08 AM

SEE 3X JLP BOTHA ON GENI - MANY DISCREPANCIES:-

1.Johannes Lodewikus Petrus Botha *11 Nov 1827 - 30 Jun 1911, Potch
s.o. Willem Jacobus Botha *? and Aletta Sophia Bezuidenhout
Johannes Lodewikus Petrus Botha, b4c3d3e2f5g1
[Death - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C91L-D93W-8?cc=299... ]
x Anna Catharina Petronella Bezuidenhout * c 1827 https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS3F-NSVC-N?i=785&...

2.Johannes Lodewikus Petrus Botha *18 Feb 1827-?
s.o. Willem Jacobus Botha *1798 and Hester Francina Jacoba Hennop
Johannes Lodewikus Petrus Botha, b5c9d1e6f2
[L&D dated 1869 gives 5 children – Alwyn Petrus, Anna Margaretha, Susanna Christina, Jan Josua, Johannes Lodewikus Petrus]
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS3F-NSVC-N?i=785&...
x Anna Catharina P Bezuidenhout * ?
Anna Catharina Petronella Bezuidenhout
xx Wilhelmina Petronella Christina van den Berg *5 Sep 1827
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSV8-7XPQ?i=129&am...
[Same L&D 1869 and mother’s name given as Petronella Christina van den Berg, gives same 5 children – Alwyn Petrus, Anna Margaretha, Susanna Christina, Jan Josua, Johannes Lodewikus Petrus]

3.Johannes Lodewikus Petrus Botha *17 May 1826-[before 1875]
s.o. Alewyn Petrus Botha and Anna Margaretha Catharina Smit
Johannes Lodewikus Petrus Botha, b5c9d1e7f2
[No marriage, but note on mother’s death notice mentions he is deceased and gives names of 4 of his children - Alwyn Petrus, Anna Margaretha, Susanna Christina, Jan Josua. Is this note connected to correct Lodewikus?]

12/17/2020 at 3:18 PM

Yes this is the one I believe is the correct one based on the documents and not on Geni
3.Johannes Lodewikus Petrus Botha *17 May 1826-[before 1875]
s.o. Alewyn Petrus Botha and Anna Margaretha Catharina Smit
Johannes Lodewikus Petrus Botha, b5c9d1e7f2
[No marriage, but note on mother’s death notice mentions he is deceased and gives names of 4 of his children - Alwyn Petrus, Anna Margaretha, Susanna Christina, Jan Josua. Is this note connected to correct Lodewikus?]
All his children are as follows and are also as per naming convention
Children
Alewyn Petrus born 10 December 1848 christened Potchefstroom 17 December 1848
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9Z5-R7SJ?i=73&amp...
Anna Catharina born 19 March1852 christened Potchefstroom 25 May 1852 (AKA Anna Margaretha)
(died Soutpansberg 19 March 1933 - estate 81106)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9Z5-RQGH?i=195&am... - christening
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSS5-NTVC?i=1808&a... - death
X Floris Visser (he died March 1905 - 5 children) XX Petrus Jeremias Bezuidenhout (he died 16 July 1922)
Susanna Catharina born 16 October 1857 christened Pietersbsurg 1860 (no date shown)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9Z5-N6KH?i=54&amp...
Jan Jozua born 1 February 1860 christened Pietersburg 1860 (not date shown)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QSQ-G9Z5-NC2V?i=607&am...
Johannes Lodewicus Petrus 1862 (a Female - refer to following link from mothers death notice)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS3J-H379-6?i=100&...
Johanna Catharina born 9 July 1863 christened Pietersburg 31 July 1864 (not on fathers death notice)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-89Z5-N6RF?i=91&amp...

12/18/2020 at 9:16 AM

The naming pattern convinces me.

7/11/2022 at 9:03 AM

Johannes Lodewikus Petrus Botha, b5c9d1e7f2

Anna Catharina Margarita Smit
Death notice d. 1875 - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS92-ZWK8-7?i=450&...
Notes 13 children
Gives her “wyle” son Johannes Lodewikus Petrus Botha’s children as:- Alewyn Petrus; Anna Catharina M; Jan Josua; Joh Lod Petrus and a “meisietjie Hanije.

Johannes Lodewikus Petrus Botha – her son
L&D dd 19 Oct 1869 - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS3F-NSVC-N?i=785&... - Gives children as Alwyn Petrus; Anna Margaretha; Susanna Christina; Jan Josua; Johannes Lodewikus Petrus

Pieternella Christina van den Berg [x JLP Botha] xx Sarel Elof Grobler
Death notice - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS3J-H37M-R?i=94&a... - Gives children as AP Botha; AM Botha; JJ Botha; JLP Botha; PC Grobler; NJ Grobler
Petronella Christina Grobler born van den Berg - L&D dd 18 Apt 1895 - https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS3J-H379-6?i=100&... – Gives children as Alewyn Petrus Botha; Anna Visser born Botha; Jan Josua Botha; Johannes Lodewikus Petrus Albasini Botha; Petronella Christina du Toit born Grobler; Nicolaas Johannes Grobler

ALL THESE CHILDREN HAVE THE SAME NAMES AND/OR INITIALS

Conclusion- the Johannes Lodewikus Petrus Botha *17 May 1826 bap 18 Oct 1826, Graaff-Reinet s.o. Alewyn Petrus Botha married to Anna Margaretha Catharina Smit is the one married to Petronella Christina van den Berg
And NOT Johannes Lodewikus Petrus Botha *18 Feb 1827 bap 4 Nov 1827, Graaff-Reinet s.o. Willem Jacobus Botha and Hester Francina Jacoba Hennop

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