Identification of Cherokee in the painting

Pam Wilson (on hiatus), Kathryn Forbes, what do you think?

Does Oukah Ulah = Attakullakulla ?

Kat Chambers Wrote:

I transcribed the printing below the 1730 etching I just messaged you about. Here it is if you are interested. comments in bracket [ ] are my additions.

The above Indian Kings or Chiefs were brought over from Carolina by Sr. Alexander Coming Bard.? (being the Chiefs of the Cherrokee Indians) to enter into Articles of Friendship and Commerce with his Majesty. As soon as they arrived they were conducted to Windsor, and were present at the Installation of Prince William and Lady Chesterfield. The Pomp and Splendour of the Court, and ye Grandeur, not only of the Ceremony as well as the Place was what struck them with infinite Surprise and Wonder. They were handsomely entertained at his Majesty’s Charge and Clothed with their Habits out of ye Royal Wardrobe. When the Court left Windsor they were brought to Town and proper Lodgings and Attendance provided for them near Covent Garden. They were entertained at all Publick Diversions of the Tonn [high society], and Carried to all Places of Note and Curiosity. They were remarkably Strict in their Probity and Morality. Their Behavior easy and courteous; and their Gratitude to his Majesty was often expressed in a Publick Manner, for ye many Favours they received. --- On Monday, September 7, 1730, Articles of Friendship and Commerce were accordingly proposed to them by ye Lord Commissioners for Trade and Plantations and were agreed on Two Days after, viz, on ye 9th at Whitehall, and signed on ye part of their Lordships by Alured Popple, Esq., upon which KETAGUSTAH [2nd from left, labeled Prince] after a short speech, in Complement to his Majesty, Concluded by laying down his Feathers upon ye table and said, “This is our Way of Talking, which is ye same Thing to us as ye Letters in ye Book are to you; BELOVED MEN, we deliver these Feathers in Confirmation of all that we have said.” Note the markings in their faces and bodys are tokens of Victory.

No, Attakullakulla is the person identified as Okoonaka, he is the youngest person in the group. Oukah Ulah was a different man.

If so, then who was the King (#1 in the center) and the Prince (#2 second from left)? The questions must be asked: did the man who created the etching and was there with them identify them incorrectly? Or have we done so in the last 300 years? Have all 7 men been identified?:

This is how the etching is captioned in the original:

Oukah Ulah - Center with feather
Ketagustah - 2nd from left
Tathtow - 5th from left
Clogoittah - 4th from left
Kollannah - 3rd from left
Ukwaneequa - last man on right
and Onaconoa.- first man on left

There is no Okoonaka identified as such in the photo, but there is Onaconoa, #7, the man standing first on the Left, not the far right.

We know who the seven men were from Cuming's Journal and an account by Attakullakulla himself. Except for the fact that we know Attakullakulla was the youngest member of the group so likely the man at the far right, it's probably anybody's guess whether the others are correctly identified in the engraving. Oukah Ulah was considered the most important man in the group, so would make sense for him to be in the center. Their names are written different ways, but we know that they were:

Oukah Ulah (described as the head Warrior of Tassetchee, and selected as the speaker by the group) also called Seayagusta and Skallelockee;
Ketagustah (or Prince);
Tethtowe (also written as Tistoe);
Collannah (which isn't actually a name, it's the title "Raven") ,
Clogoitta
and Oukanaekah/Oukoonaka (later Attakullakulla) both came from Tanasee.
En route to Charleston to embark they met a man called Ounakannowie who became the seventh member of the group.

Kathryn Forbes, thank you so much for the information! On the Treaty of Sycamore Shoals aka the Transylvania Purchase, the interpreter wrote the name beside his mark: Savanooka otherwise Coronah (or Collannah). So he was the Raven of Chota?

I sent a message to the Tennessee State Museum who had the print on their website with the caption that Attakullakulla was the last man on the right. After my query, they researched it with the British Museum.

TN State Museum: "On further research I have found that Attakullakulla is #4 on the original print. He is the second one on the right and not the last one on the right as we have documented on the web page. The alternate spelling of his name is “C Clogoittah”. "

Link to article on British Museum website: https://www.britishmuseum.org/collection/term/BIOG152409

My interest is not only in the Treaty but I also have a 1775 land deed the Chiefs traded land for their debt to my 5th great grandfather, signed/marked by Attakullakulla or Attacullahcullah as is written on the Treaty. On many documents it is clear the English writers were struggling to compose the spelling of their name based on phonetics.

I also came across a remark supposedly made by Ostenaco that they changed their names depending on the occasion.

Chief Attakullakulla "Little Carpenter", Cherokee Emissary to England Very nice work! Thank you.

Who was your ancestor, Kat Chambers?

And the Tennessee folks are dead wrong. Clogoittah was a different man. “Raven” was a warrior title, pretty much every Cherokee town had one. All of the men who went to London in 1730 were dead by 1756 except Attakullakulla. Sycamore Shoals was in 1775.

Kathryn Forbes, that is what is stated on the British Museum website with the original print, that his alternate name was Clogoittah. Perhaps they can give you more information about where their information came from.

I was not implying that Raven was with the 1730 group. I mentioned him in connection with the Treaty of Sycamore Shoals in 1775.

Erica Howton
Erica, my ancestor was Captain Thomas Price, Indian trader, Interpreter, and friend of the Cherokees. He began trading with them in 1765; was asked to accompany them to Charleston to retrieve some goods at the port in 1767, he was their interpreter and advisor at the Treaty of Lochaber and Treaty of Sycamore Shoals while Joseph Vann was the interpreter for the Crown. He went with Richard Henderson in negotiations beginning in the fall of 1774, accompanied them to Fayetteville, NC to view the goods offered in trade before the treaty was signed. Thomas Price gave a deposition to the NC General Assembly around 1777 about the Treaty that provided a lot of details.

The Chiefs traded land to him and his partner George Lewis to pay their trading debt, as happened with several other traders as they had no money. The land was approximately 40 square miles, or over one million acres, in what is now Buncombe County, NC, adjoining Jacob Brown's purchase and the Watauga Settlement. After they signed the deed, he invited them to his home at which "dancing and other merriments were performed; and in the presence of the Indians, the books were burned and a great Rejoicing amongst the Indians on the Occasion."

Captain Thomas Price was born estimated 1735, location and parents unknown. He married Sarah Llewellyn, parents and location also unknown.

Captain Price and his sons William Price and Thomas Price, Jr. were in the Revolutionary War. Captain Price died at the Second Siege of Augusta, GA around June 1, 1781.

Erica Howton
I posted a photo of the signature page of the Treaty of Sycamore Shoals, with signatures of Oconostoto, Attakullakulla and Savanooka. My ancestor Thomas Price is listed at the bottom on the right side.

The link to a complete copy of the document, filed in 1783, is at: https://digital.ncdcr.gov/digital/collection/p16062coll36/id/26534

Capt. Thomas Price

Would love your biography for him, I’m uploading the image.

I wrote to the Brotish Museum regarding their error, and they have corrected their description.

Dear Kathryn Forbes,
Many thanks, I have amended following your suggestions. I now know more about Cherokee-Anglo relations than before.
Best wishes,

Hugo Chapman
The Simon Sainsbury Keeper of Prints & Drawings
The British Museum
London
WC1B 3DG
(0)20 7323 8704

Outstanding! Thank you both so much, Kat Chambers and Kathryn Forbes