Maj. West Harris - Overview Incorrect

I added your comment, but I’m not going to remove the link until

1) a good external link that can replace it is edited in
2) a complete family list is added to profile “about”
3) link to will book is added

Is this statement correct? Is there another author it can be attributed to?

“Edward Harris made his will in Isle of Wight Co., Va. on April 27, 1733, and it was probated March 25, 1734. He stated he was from Upper Parish in Isle of Wight. He left to son Edward “ land adjoining John Johnson and John Turner; being land which was granted to my father, Thomas Harris;” son Jacob, land on the Flatt Swamp of the Meherrin River; sons Nathan and West Harris, the land granted me on the north side of Warwick Branch; son Daniel, daughter Martha Williamson: son James; wife Mary. Executor, son Nathan Harris. (Isle of Wight, Will Book 3, p. 391. More information on Edward’s children can be found in this book).“

All of this Thomas Harris d1699 line is DOCUMENTED in the 1995 book by John A Brayton entitle "The Five Thomas Harrises of Isle of Wight County Virginia., including complete Wills. The Edward Harris Will starts on page 391 but the majority is on page 392. No need for an undocumented lineage chart that is false when there exists a documented book by a professional genealogist.

There isno exteernal link thatcan replace it.
There is no known linkto the West Harris Will
A Complete Family list is not necessary for any Geni Profile.
The line of Thomas Harris d1688 down to Rowland Harris is already documented in the 1995 Book of John A Brayton entitle "The Five Thonas Harrises of Isle of Wight Count Vinginia."

If the names of the children can be listed, that will go a long way to keeping wrong children off this this family, and allow me to lock the family group.

John Brayton does not allow any listing of names of children from his 1995 Copyrighted book.Dates of birth not given for 1st son Isham and 5th child Martha.

Then I can’t be of much help until someone who owns the book writes out the names of the children for me.

Then why does Geni allow NON DOCUMNETED material that is corrupted?

Same reason they all do - it's all strictly volunteers. Geni is better than some because the volunteers make some effort to cross-check each other, but the potential for human error is always there (partly because there is already so much human error out on the Web).

If you find this intolerable, you can always cancel your account and stick to *professional* genealogical websites only. Your choice, your money.

Perhaps the last Will of West Harris would suffice that names al lof his eleven children by his two wives.

All eleven children are already listed in the Gideon Dowse Harris 1904 book listed in the Overview References section.

And where is the will? Am I supposed to guess, particularly on difficult lines like Harris?

I’m a Geni volunteer curator, and I’m happy to help out. But this is not my family, I have my own to research and source up.

First I’m seeing he had two wives.

I added a link to this book from the public domain - is it valid?

https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89066158239&view=1up&...

The Wikitree confirmed match includes two non existing siblings and two non existing children.

But if "there is no known link to the West Harris will", that information is not available to anyone who can't get their hands on the actual physical book - and of course it's out of print.

Glad to hear that the Dowse book

* Harris, G. Dowse. (1914). Harris genealogy. Columbus, Miss.: Keith printing co. Page 44. [https://hdl.handle.net/2027/wu.89066158239?urlappend=%3Bseq=50 Hathitrust]

Is valid. That makes a huge difference - particularly since hathitrust has a text version I could copy - paste into the Geni profile preview, in addition to uploading the page as a PDF file and attach to profiles as source. I hadn’t heard If it had errors or not so didn’t progress it before now.

I will detach the extra children Jememiah Harris & Ransom Wesley Harris, Sr. give it another check, and then lock the family group.

Is this profile confused or what?

Priscilla Tucker

https://hdl.handle.net/2027/wu.89066158239?urlappend=%3Bseq=50 Has Priscilla married Roger Williams.

Profile notes have Priscilla Harris married 1) Jesse Clifton 2) George Tucker

The family is now complete except my question (above).

https://www.geni.com/documents/view?doc_id=6000000155978799827

Both are incorrect. Priscila married 1st to Roger Williaims and 2nd to Henry Thorpe. The 1995 Brayton book, though out of prin, is still available in many public libraries. Just go to worldcat.org and type in thename of the bbok and your zipcode and it will give you a list of libraries near your zipcode that have a copy of this reserved book for viewing. The Gideon Dowse booki s mainly correct for each individual except it makes a few wrong connections to parents.. You just haveto remember that it was published 100 years before genetaic testing of DNA bacame available.

I will leave that for a relative to do - going to libraries for other people’s families is outside my pay scale of $0. :). As a volunteer curator I try to straighten out tangles, which of course can end up with some researching, but it’s more about nice presentation of others peoples work, for me.

I’ll fix Priscilla based on note above,

Priscilla Thorpe

That was very useful - Mrs. Thorpe had been hanging out separately, As had Mrs. Girardeau.

"Near" is a relative term, Mr. King. I do not consider 50 miles or so to be "near". Especially these days with COVID-19 playing merry hob with accessibility. (And no, libraries are NOT doing Inter-Library Loan until the virus goes away!)

Most everyone living in a suburb is living in a city of over 50 miles wide. And as I said this reserved book is copyrighted and not available for inter-library loan.not even the LDS Salt Lake Library..

Dude, SOME of us live way out beyond Major City limits. This is not Trantor (yet).

You also have some VERY strange ideas about copyright restrictions.

As the West Harris Will is already in the Gideon Dowse Harris 1904 book that is available online for free, it is widely available to any internet dummy. I have both an original and a printable internet copy, As a professionqal genealogist, I have wordked with a copyright attorney for oveer fourty years, and have corresponded with John Brayton for over 25 years since I purchased his books,, City limits are not the extent of a cities that encompasses many suburbs.

"As the West Harris Will is already in the Gideon Dowse Harris 1904 book that is available online for free"

WHICH you never specifically stated previously, preferring to rabbit on about a more recent book that is now out of print and difficult (and/or expensive!) to get hold of.

Thanks for nothing.

The newer book is always available to the thousand of us that purchased the book that has been cited here in Geni for over a decade.It is the only accurate Harris family of Isle of Wight book that exists that correctly documents the five different Thomas Harris that you are not related to..If you were related, you would have purchased this $25 book long before it became out of print, Erica Howton just lately added this 1904 Gideon Harris book as a reference that is just a collection of Harris Wills WHICH ARE ACCURATE..

The John Brayton 1995 book is still available to view in over 25 public libraries around the world. As a copyrighted book it is placed in the library reserve section and not for outside check out.

You HAVE got some weird ideas about copyright. *Every* book published is copyrighted, and libraries let most of them circulate *anyway*.

A book that's a "limited resource", such as a specialized genealogical sourcebook with few available copies, might indeed be restricted to non-circulating use - but not because it's copyrighted, because it would be difficult and/or expensive to replace.

(The local Archives includes some books that have been out of copyright for ages, but they don't circulate because the library doesn't want to have to try to replace them.)

Non-circulation and protect makes perfect sense. Non replaceable valuable books must be protected.

It’s just inconvenient at this time not to be able to get information needed. This time will pass, everything will settle, and we will be able to access the information.

Only when JohnA Brayton dies If he doesn't transfer his copyright to someone else. The LDs Slat Lake Library wlll not microfilm his books untii,then and limits the viewing of them.Copyright have a time limet that ususally end when aanuthur, that is why Maven cites so many pubilshed books. None of my own coyrighted materials will be published in my lifetimme acoording to my copyright attorney,