Zalman Brotzki - Duplicate of Zalman Brodsky?

Started by Private User on Wednesday, September 23, 2020
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Solomon (Yekutiel Zalman) Markovich Brodsky (Brodsky is the proper spelling) is referred to in the sources as a wealthy man in Kiev from a famous family - are he and his wife Chaya Brodsky identical with Solomon (Yekutiel Zalman) Markovich Brodsky and his wife Chaya Brodsky, who match that description? (Her maiden name also matches.)

This article in HaMelitz seems to identify them as the same: http://jpress.org.il/Olive/APA/NLI_heb/SharedView.Article.aspx?href...
(Yekusiel Zalman Brodsky of Kiev son of Meir Brodsky of Zlatopol born in Brody, married to a grandaughter of R. Akiva Eiger, died in 1883 age 67 - so the age is off a bit in any case, as this is definitely Solomon (Yekutiel Zalman) Markovich Brodsky)

And I missed the fact that their fathers are clearly identical: R' Meir (Shor) Brodsky and R' Meir (Shor) Brodsky ('Mavrodi' is a mistaken rendering of Hebrew mi-Brodi, of Brody)

Private User,

What do you want done here?

Kevin

Kevin Lawrence Hanit, I was hoping someone with expertise would confirm my suspicion. If no one chimes in with direct knowledge in the next few days, I'll go ahead and merge them, because it looks obvious to me.

OK.

I will have to check my family tree. It includes the "Sugar Brodsky" family and goes back to 960CE. I am pretty sure I was named for my ?? g g great uncle Zalman. My tree is about 400 pages long with about 800 photos that includes many of the Sugar Brodsky descendants. My mother was a BRODSKY. Are you related to any of the Brodskys? ...or what is your connection to the people you are asking about?

Private User: No, not related; I was researching one of the marriages of Leon Brodsky and I stumbled across this.

My connection to the Sugar Brodsky Family is 6 generations back with the last name SCHOR. - Alexander Babad SCHOR.(died 4-3-1843 Brody, Ukraine) is my connection.

What is your connection?

If you fast for YOM KIPPUR, I hope you have an easy fast.

I have been in contact with the grandson of Alexander BRODSKY.. A

Alexander was the son of Joseph Brodsky, son of Rabbi Meir Brodsky who started the sugar business.

Private User, sorry, I just saw your message, as I was indeed away for Yom Kippur - my connection is because I am in middle of writing a blog post which has some information abput Helene Brodsky's mother's family (and a bit about her father's) - the main subject of the post is Helene/Hinda's half-sister's husband's family, but that's the way research goes...

What is the connection of Hinda Brodsky, her mother and her half sister to the Sugar Brodsky Family? Maybe we can help each other out.

Have you come across any GOLDENBERG or SHIPIT in your research?

Itzchak GOLDENBERG, Hinde SHIPIT (died 1890) or any previous family membres?

Is your connection to Helene/Hinda's half-sister's husband's family?

Private User, yes, but very tangential.

I had ancestor whose second wife was a Rubin, who later married an Epstein, and my research of her family and her second family - who had famous connections, but aren't well described anywhere - became two still-unfinished series of blog posts. Helene's half-sister married a nephew of said Epstein.

I can post a link to the blog posts that are up already, if you'd like, but I don't want to put my findings on the Geni tree until several weeks have passed from posting (because I make reference to what is already on Geni, and it looks redundant if my research is already here).

I have not come across Goldenberg or Shipit

Hinda/Helena's Brodsky connection is only via her husband, as far as I can tell. Her mother was a Landau-Mieses, from her second marriage to a Feinberg from Kovno; her first husband was a Luria.

Here is my post which touches on Helene Brodsky née Feinberg and her parents:
https://pymund.wordpress.com/2020/09/29/epstein-excursion-1-a/

Regarding the matter at hand here, I'm going ahead with the merge, since it seems not to be controversial.

I have kept my family tree on Geni to a minimum.Like I mentioned before, my tree is about 400 pages long. It includes landau

It includes LANDAU and LURIE ancestors.

Helene/Hinda's mother may be a descendant of Israel Brodsky's daughter REBECCA, whos 1st husband was Professor MEISELS and 2nd husband was Professor MAUTNER. This may or may not help you. I do not presently have Rebecca's children's ore grandchildren's names

I'm not sure that fits the timeline. Hinda's mother was born circa 1835, and her ancestry is known on both sides for several generations (see the blog post)

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