Tecompolas Margaret "Young Eagle" Collins - Tecompolas Margaret "Young Eagle" Collins - think she was stepmom of Alexander Mckee, not daughter

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Alexander McKee was born about 1735 as the second son of Thomas McKee an Irish immigrant (probably Scots-Irish from northern Ireland), fur trader, Indian Agent, and interpreter for General Forbes at Fort Pitt. His mother, Mary, was a white captive from a North Carolina settler's family who had been adopted and assimilated into the Shawnee tribe. She died when he was young. He had an older half-brother, Thomas Alexander McKee (AKA Pelewiechen), who had immigrated with their father to the colonies from Ireland. The senior Thomas McKee married Margaret Tecumsapah Opessa, a daughter of Pride Opessa, who signed the original Treaty with Wm Penn on April 23, 1701, and a granddaughter of King Opessa and Chief Cornstalk. Margaret was an older sister to Alexander McKee's first wife, Sewatha Sarah Straighttail, and to Metheotashe Mary Opessa, the mother of the great Shawnee leader Tecumseh and Tenskwatawa, the Shawnee Prophet. It was Margaret who taught Alexander the customs and language of the Shawnee. He developed a lifelong relationship with the Ohio Indian tribes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_McKee
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What I surmise from the documentation above is that Margaret was married to Thomas McKee Sr, father of Alexander Mckee. Alexander's mother was Mary, a white Shawnee captive. Alexander had a half brother by the name of Thomas Mckee who came with his father to the colonies from Ireland. The Shawnee called the younger Thomas McKee Pelewiechen.

Margaret's father was Loyparkoweh "Pride" Opessa Straight Tail, Loyparkoweh's father was Opessa Straight Tail, Opessa's father was Chief Meaurroway Straight Tail.
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Also think her name was Margaret Tecumsapah Opessa Straight Tail -- I noticed the reference for her profile was Don Greene's Shawnee Heritage Books. They have proved to be full or errors & have a lot of misinformation
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Diana Collins

Since she was a grandaughter of Cornstalk according to the above, that means that one of Cornstalk's daughters would of been married to Opessa Straight Tail.

Tecompolas Margaret Collins

Loyparkoweh Opessa Straight Tail, Straight-Tail

Chief Opessa "Opeththa" Straight Tail

Straight Tail Meaurroway Opessa

Hokolesqua, Sachem Cornstalk

Erica since you curate Cornstalk's profile I thought you may want to see this -- the Margaret in discussion is his granddaughter.

Erica Howton

References from Wikipedia

Wulff, Frederick. (2013) Alexander McKee: The Great White Elk, British Indian Agent on the Colonial Frontier. Denver: Outskirts Press.
Harrison, R. H. (1880). Atlas of Allen County, Ohio from Records and Original Surveys. Philadelphia: R.H. Harrison. p. 36.
Paulett, Robert (2012). An Empire of Small Places : Mapping the Southeastern Anglo-Indian Trade, 1732–1795. University of Georgia Press. p. 125. ISBN 0820343463.
Nelson, Larry L. A Man of Distinction Among Them. Alexander McKee and British-Indian Affairs along the Ohio Country Frontier 1754-1799. Kent, OH: The Kent State University Press, 1999.

9/11/2020 at 3:27 PM

Here’s what I see so far.

http://shaybo-therisingtide.blogspot.com/2011/10/shawnee-collins-fa...

Opessa, Sewatha-Sarah (1) – Pekowi born 1726 MD-died after 1750 (OH?) - daughter of Loyparkoweh Opessa/1702 & Nancy Pekowi/1706, aunt of Tecumseh, with Pekowi in the west WV/east OH 1750, wife by 1745 PA of Col. Alexander McKee/1725, mother of  Tecumpolas-Margaret McKee/1746, Child/1750, Child/1754, Child/1760,

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Keeping the generations straight might be hard.

Straight Tail married a Pekowi woman in 1650, having the following children:

Opessa Straight Tail: born about 1664. Great-grandfather of Tecumseh, famed Shawnee leader during the War of 1812.

Pride Opessa Shawnee
*Born 1685 [location unknown]
* Died about 1760
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of Rising Sun Shawnee — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Father of Mesquakinoe Shawnee and Waweyapiersenwaw Shawnee

Mesquakinoe Red Pole

Civil Chief of the Shawnee Indians-1797
* 28 Jan 1797 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
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Born of the Mekoche Clan Shawnee, and believed to be half brother to Blue Jacket, War Chief, of the Pekowi Clan Shawnee. He was a signer of the Treaty of Greenville.
As the Civil Chief of the Shawnee Indians in 1797 he was with Blue Jacket in Philadelphia, November, 1798, in talks with President George Washington regarding crimes by settlers in Indian country, the Indians wish for revision of the Greenville Treaty boundary line through Ohio, and the many promises the Shawnees believed not kept by the American government. He died with Waweyapiersenwaw Blue Jacket at his side.

http://thepittsburghhistoryjournal.com/post/16633638910/on-this-day... On This Day in Pittsburgh History: January 28, 1797
Red Pole, great Shawnee Indian chief, died at Pittsburgh and was buried in Trinity churchyard. [Historic Pittsburgh]

In 2008, Pittsburgh City Paper editor Chris Potter inquired about the gravesite.“There’s good reason to believe that Red Pole is still buried beside the church. For one thing, he was an ally of the settlers, buried with full military honors.” He was too well-known to have had his gravesite moved without the public and local press finding out. Another reason, an archivist for the Episcopalian Diocese of Pittsburgh says, is that he is not buried in a place “where his grave was in the way of anything.”
The picture above and caption below reference Red Pole, who fell ill traveling to Philadelphia to sign a peace treaty with President George Washington, in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, Sept. 9, 1963:

CHIEF RED POLE was buried at Trinity after he died while on a business trip to Pittsburgh.

The U.S. Secretary of War ordered a tombstone erected in the Chief’s memory, a tribute to his “pacification of certain of the Indian tribes.” The headstone says Red Pole is “lamented by the United States.”

[William] Mitchell, who has been associated with the church since 1913, told how the late motion picture director, Cecil B. Demille, once brought a so-called Indian princess to the grave site as a promotion stunt for his movie, “The Unconquered,” starring Gary Cooper.

“They took pictures next to the Chief’s grave,” Mitchell said.
When Red Pole became sick in 1797, Dr. Nathaniel Bedford, the city’s first physician, treated him. Bedford’s grave is a few feet from that of Red Pole.

===References
* https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Shawnee-14
* https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Blue-Jacket-4
* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_Tail_Meaurroway_Opessa
* http://shaybo-therisingtide.blogspot.com/2011/10/shawnee-collins-fa...

9/11/2020 at 3:34 PM

Judith "Judi" Elaine (McKee) Burns How does it look to you?

9/11/2020 at 4:39 PM

Give me time - my brain is fried with dealing with a stage 4 lung cancer victim just started radiation treatments for the next 11 days minus the weekends - has been now recalculated twice as they are growing one may bust open - been cleaning up 5.3 acres of junk metal; - hauling boxes that have been packed up since 2018 to storage shed - dealing with rebuilding my house in Culver; trying to get the sale of 64.5 acres started so I can pay for it and not loose my a$$ and everything i have

9/11/2020 at 4:46 PM

Take your time. I just complicated with merges. :)

Who are the parents of “Mary McKee” supposed to be?

9/11/2020 at 5:07 PM

According to Shawnee Heritage, Sewatha-Sarah Opessa “ Older daughter” Straight Tail and Pekowi Man are the parents of Tecompolas Margaret Collins. I placed Sarah as a daughter of Nancy Kakawatchekee Opessa Straight Tail. Please check.

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9/11/2020 at 5:36 PM
9/11/2020 at 6:06 PM

Thomas McKee

https://www.facebook.com/5thgreatgrandaughter/photos/a.107012856171...

McKee the Indian Traders;

Alexander b1665, Thomas b1693, and Alexander b1725

Four brothers bearing the name McKee left Scotland for bonnie England. There they soon joined the army of William, Prince of Orange, and shortly afterwards, in 1690, they are with the rest of the army in the northern part of Ireland. The sole reason for Prince William’s landing was to engage King James’s forces resulting in the Battle of Boyne. These brothers were Alexander, who settled in Antrim, Hugh who settled in Lisban, David returned to England with William of Orange and John who settled in the Ards.

Alexander McKee (1665-1740) born in Strathnaver, Scotland, having fought at the Battle of Boyne received a land grant in County Antrim, Ireland which was eventually sold to finance his family’s immigration to America. He died at age 75 in May 1740 in Cumberland, Pennsylvania after engaging for 35 years in the fur-trading business with his son Thomas who thereafter continued the business at McKee’s Half Falls, in what is now Snyder County Pennsylvania, where they had established a trading store. He was married to Elizabeth Gordon an Irish woman in 1683 in Antrim, Ulster, Ireland. They had three sons born in Ireland: Thomas b1693-1769 died in Pennsylvania, Edward b1695-1769 died in Pennsylvania, and William b1700-1790 died in Virginia. His wife, Elizabeth died in Antrim, Ulster, Ireland. Alexander McKee paid passage for his sons and their families to America. It is believed they arrived about 1735.

His son, Thomas McKee (1693–1769) born in County Antrim, Ireland, married Agnes Cunningham, born 2 Feb 1707 in Drumbo, Down, Northern Ireland, She died in 1780 at Rockbridge, Virginia. Thomas served as a captain in the French and Indian War. He became a licensed trader on the Susquehanna as early as 1742 and was one of the best known traders on the Susquehanna, having had a trading post on Big Island, now Haldeman’s Island, at the mouth of the Juniata River and was also of the class of traders called in history the Shamokin Traders. He built Fort McKee, a border outpost on the Susquehanna in 1756. Thomas McKee and died in McKees Half Falls, Pennsylvania in 1769. Thomas had two sons born in Ireland by his Irish wife; Thomas b1720 (Pelewiechen) and Alexander b1725, (Wapimescheu).

Some accounts make his second wife a Shawanese woman; others a white woman captured by that nation on one of their raids in the Carolinas and adopted and reared among them. Tecumsapah OPESSA called Margaret or Mary (1724-1769) a member of the Turtle Clan, They married in 1738 in Pennsylvania. They had seven children together. Other children include Alexander b1738, Nancy b1740, Hugh b1742, Catherine b1744, Margaret b1746, Thomas b1750, John b1754, James b1755, all ½ Pekowi-Metis. Their son, James b1755 challenged his older brother for the family property and remained on the McKee’s Rocks tract, and became the ancestor of the many descendants in and about Pittsburgh

9/11/2020 at 6:20 PM

Colonel Alexander "the Great White Elk” McKee

https://www.facebook.com/5thgreatgrandaughter/photos/a.107012856171...

Thomas McKee, whose family name has been preserved in McKee’s Rocks, was the father of Alexander McKee (1725-1799) probably best known for his defection from the patriot cause to the British and their Indian allies during the American Revolution. As a result of his defection, all of his lands were confiscated by the Americans. McKee went on to gain a villainous reputation with Simon Girty and his brothers among the settlers on the Pennsylvania frontier for organizing and instigating deadly Indian attacks against them. Sometime following the end of the war, Colonel Alexander McKee moved to Canada where he died of lockjaw and was buried on his farm on the Thames River, Ontario, Canada in 1799. In 1769 he is believed to have married Edna Yellow Britches Rising Sun (1732-1793) and by this marriage became related to the Shawnee war chief, Blue Jacket. His known children were William, Alexander, Thomas, Elizabeth and Catherine, however, Thomas McKee had many Indian wives and children.

We have to remember the Shawnee Heritage books are full of errors & some fabrications as well.

Unlike other Native American Chiefs before him, Straight Tail did not discourage interracial marriage. He encouraged a good relationship with the Europeans. His daughter, Sewatha, married a prominent French trader, Martin Chartier, who explored the Great Lakes region of America with Rene-Robert de la Salle. Other children and their descendants also married whites. His grandson was Peter Chartier, who was active in opposition to the British in the French and Indian War. Because of these marriages, many of his modern-day descendants include people that have Caucasian features. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_Tail_Meaurroway_Opessa

Erica Howton

Colonel Alexander "the Great White Elk” McKee He had a different mother than his brother Thomas.

Alexander McKee was born about 1735 as the second son of Thomas McKee an Irish immigrant (probably Scots-Irish from northern Ireland), fur trader, Indian Agent, and interpreter for General Forbes at Fort Pitt. His mother, Mary, was a white captive from a North Carolina settler's family who had been adopted and assimilated into the Shawnee tribe. She died when he was young. He had an older half-brother, Thomas Alexander McKee (AKA Pelewiechen), who had immigrated with their father to the colonies from Ireland

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_McKee

Erica Howton

Sewatha-Sarah Opessa “ Older daughter” Straight Tail

I think Seawatha Straight Tail is attached to wrong parents. I believe Loyparkoweh "Pride" Opessa Straight Tail is her brother, not her father. Her husband was listed as Martin Chartier, a French Trader.

Unlike other Native American Chiefs before him, Straight Tail did not discourage interracial marriage. He encouraged a good relationship with the Europeans. His daughter, Sewatha, married a prominent French trader, Martin Chartier, who explored the Great Lakes region of America with Rene-Robert de la Salle. Other children and their descendants also married whites. His grandson was Peter Chartier, who was active in opposition to the British in the French and Indian War.

Because of these marriages, many of his modern-day descendants include people that have Caucasian features.

Here's why:

Straight Tail (this is referring to Chief Meaurroway Straight Tail) married a Pekowi woman in 1650, having the following children:

Wolf Straight Tail: born about 1654.
Sewatha Straight Tail: born about 1660 in Ohio, USA. Married to Martin Chartier about 1693. Mother of Peter Chartier. Died in 1759 in Illinois.
Cakundawanna Straight Tail: born about 1662.
Opessa Straight Tail: born about 1664. Great-grandfather of Tecumseh, famed Shawnee leader during the War of 1812.
Snow White Straight Tail: born about 1666 in Ohio, USA.
Minitha Straight Tail: born about 1668 in Ohio, USA
John White Straight Tail: born about 1670 in Ohio, USA.
Daughter Straight Tail: born about 1680 in Illinois, USA.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_Tail_Meaurroway_Opessa

CORRECTION on this -- "Since she (Tecompolas Margaret (Straight Tail) Collins ) was a grandaughter of Cornstalk according to the above, that means that one of Cornstalk's daughters would of been married to Opessa Straight Tail."

That should have read, Cornstalk's daughter would have been married to Loyparkoweh "Pride" Opessa Straight Tail not Opessa Straight Tail.

9/11/2020 at 9:06 PM

DO NOT mix up the two DIFFERENT Sewatha s.

9/11/2020 at 10:05 PM

Yes, we have to keep the generations straight. I think Sewatha who married Martin Chartier is a different generation.

Also we have contradictory sources for Alexander’s mothers. Just that she wasn’t married to his father - the source claim for losing property.

9/11/2020 at 10:06 PM

The older Sewatha Sewatha Chartier

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