Cadwgon ab Elystan - Who Was the Mother of Cadwgan ap Elystan Glodrydd' s Children

Hi Steven, Anne Brannen cleaned up the Welsh lines a couple/few years ago; she's the one who knows the most, to my knowledge.

Anne added this note under the "Master Profile" heading at the top of the profile:

Curator Note from Anne Brannen (5/26/2016):
In the medieval genealogies, several Cadwigan ap Elystans have been conflated. Please be very careful when merging, and make sure all fields match.

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Thanks @Amy Anderson. Anne and I have been collaborating for some time now on the Welsh lines, and she will surely see this discussion.

Hi, Steven Mitchell Ferry! Sorry it took me a while to get back into the Welsh lines.

Looks to me like we need to go with Dwnn in this case -- one of the advantages to Dwnn (can't believe I'm saying this) is that, though he does not reconcile the manuscripts, he at least says what they are. Yay.

On the other hand, he doesn't reconcile.

You asked for source material -- the manuscripts ARE the sources, and as you know, they don't agree all the time.

Am I reading this right, above, that basically Dwnn, in his transcriptions of the manuscripts, assigns all the children to Efa? does this include Constance?

I know I can go look up Dwnn myself -- but that will take a while, so I'm hoping to not have to. lol.

@Anne Brannen In one chart he assigns Llewelyn to Jane, and that is the only child attributed to her. There are multiple Constances all attributed to Efa, but none listed as Constance Wen. But that Constance married Iestyn, Efa's younger half brother, so doubtful that Efa was the mother of Constance Wen, and doubtful that Efa was the mother of ALL those other children. In my private chart I have Efa as the mother of Idnerth, Annes, and Iorwerth, but again, it is only a guess. I think I'm on solid ground with Idnerth, as one of the Dwnn charts deals specifically with his line.