Isham / Isom Hodges - Need Documentation to Prove Who Was His Mother

Also read notes in Rebecca's profile:

Rebecca Hodges

See this match

Rebecca J Medlin

https://www.geni.com/merge/compare/6000000011302178251?to=600000007...

Showing her as daughter of Frances Cherry and also the wife of John Joseph Medlin, I

I don't see where it shows her as the daughter of Frances Cherry (Ballentine)

These appear to be totally different people. It even says on that link:

These profiles may not be the same person!
Names do not appear to match
Do not merge these profiles unless you are certain they are the same person.

None of the children match, the spouses don't match.

Debbie, We are in agreement with you on Ishams' parents, there are to many different trails going on here. We have a researcher researching in the South Carolina area for more information.

Awesome,Sherry! Please let us know if any new information surfaces.

Another trail I was following brought me back here today and I see there are three Rebecca Cherry profiles attached to this family. One is married to Hodges and two are married to Jones. It seems more confusing now than it was the last time I was brought to this junction tracing lines.

Last year I was uncertain of this connection but recently I was working on a DNA project in collaboration with a cousin in Ireland the our mutual matches include Cherry DNA matches. This got me checking Ancestry and My Heritage tonight for more Cherry matches. I have quite a number of them on Ancestry, a bit fewer on My Heritage. But they're definitely there. I have no other Cherry connection other than on this line, so even though the paper trial seemed to be ify, the DNA matches have convinced me I'm actually a Cherry descendant. So I reconnected the line to reflect that while I continue to work on my DNA matches to try to link this line I'm from to the matches whose lines come from Ireland.

I currently have 18 DNA matches to people with the Cherry surname on Ancestry and that doesn't even count the ones who aren't a Cherry by birth but have Cherry ancestry in their tree. I have additional ones on My Heritage. And I just looked under the DNA tab on Rachel Cherry Hodges' profile and Geni is showing me with an FTDNA atDNA match as her descendant and my son Len Ingram also as an atDNA match to her. I haven't even searched for Cherry matches on their site yet. I'll try to work on that tomorrow.

I though this might be pertinent to this discussion. While working on Hodge/Hodges lines in Horry and Marion Counties (who may all be related to the Cheraw District group or some of them at least), I found the Revolutionary Service file for Isham Hodges in the SC Archives and have attached it to his profile.

Please review it as it also is the file for "Joseph Hodges" - two people who served 90 days in the militia. It does not seem to indicate that he was Isham Joseph Hodges, but it is noted throughout as Isham AND Joseph Hodges.

I added in the about some land survey notes also from the SC Archives that would indicate a bounty from Isham's service.

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I do believe that Joseph is a separate person for in 1804, he has a plat surveyed for 1000 acres on Lynches Creek.

Hodges, Joseph, Plat For 1,000 Acres On Lynches Creek, Darlington District, Surveyed By John Chandler. Date: 7/3/1804
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People in this record:
Hodges, Joseph
Also: Chandler, John; Courtney, John; Evans, Charles
Places in this record:
Darlington District; Lynches Creek
Topics in this record:
Record details:
Date: 7/3/1804
Series: State Plat Books (Columbia Series) (S213192)
Document Type: Plat
Images: Available at SCDAH building or by order. See How to search menu.
Identifiers:
Archives ID: Series: S213192 Volume: 0040 Page: 00277 Item: 002

I couldn't figure out or find a profile for Joseph. It appears he is connected to Isham. Another son of John and Rebecca? Or are they perhaps nephews of John's? I'd like to make a profile for Joseph to acknowledge his service, but I am not sure where he goes.

Susanne Floyd - on and off the grid

The earliest Joseph Hodges I have connected in my tree is the son of Rev. Isom Hodges and Mary 'Polly' Terrell:

Joseph Gaines Hodges
1812–1873
BIRTH 04 MAR 1812 • Quitman, Clarke County, Mississippi, USA

I have 3 or 4 other Joseph Hodges in the family lines but all born even later. So I don't have any info on the earlier Joseph you've found.

Rev. Isom Hodges served as a militia sargeant:

File M1127. File: E:\Users\Thom\Documents\Geneaolgy\Family Tree Maker\Davis Family Tree Media\MAJOR SMOOTS BATTALION MISSISSIPPI MILSERGEANT.htm. MAJOR SMOOT'S BATTALION, MISSISSIPPI MIL,SERGEANT.

https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hodges-4517

He is more commonly seen as Isham but his will has his name as Isom. So he could be the Isham you've seen in the militia records for. But I've never seen him identified as Joseph.

He's also listed as Isom on the 1850 census where it states he was a Baptist minister:

Name Isom Hodges
Gender Male
Race White
Age 65
Birth Year 1785
Birthplace South Carolina
Home in 1850 Jones, Mississippi, USA
Occupation Bapt Preacher
Industry Welfare and Religious Services
Line Number 16
Dwelling Number 287
Family Number 287
Inferred Spouse Mary Hodges

So I definitely believe he and Joseph are two different men, surely related, who both served in the militia. But like you, I have no idea how the Joseph you've identified fits into the family lines.

So it sounds as if this Ishom is not the one with the will, a younger one who served in the War of 1812 had a will. Is that correct, Debbie Gambrell ? I could not find any DAR recrods, so no children have filed paperwork, but his service is documented in the archives and now on his profile. Perhaps the "on the will" needs to be revmoved from his name.

I will look through to see if I can find any other records.

I haven't worked on these lines in a good while in my own tree and I just realized I need to keep in mind that Isham who was married to Mary Gaines was the father of Isham who was married to Mary Terrell, so two Ishams back-to-back with wives named Mary. There are other Ishams among the branches. It was obviously a favorite name for sons in the Hodges lines.

That said, I can't find the will referenced for this discussion or noted on the profile. I scrolled through the notations under the Revisions tab and see that the first reference to (Isom on will) appears as;

Isham (Isom on will) Hodges's profile was updated by m hodge. about me
Aug 9, 2020 at 10:29 PM ·

So maybe m hodge is the one who put that notation and has a copy of the will (which I haven't seen, that I recall) and maybe has additional info.

Susanne, the info I supplied above was about the Isham / Isom who I have in my tree with a son named Joseph Gaines Hodges, since this discussion actually picked up with your search for that particular Joseph you're trying to place in the lines. So worth nothing that the info I supplied above is for the son of the Isham who supposed is Isom on his will. I think I got father and son Ishams mixed up when I was posting. Sorry for that. I just realized the dates weren't working because I had mixed up some of the details for the father into my post about the son being on the 1850 census as Isom. This is the Isham / Isom I was referring to who has the son named Joseph Gaines Hodges:

Rev. Isom / Isham Hodges Jr.

It's his father who has has the will notated on his profile.

Both the father and son were in service. On Ancestry there is this info for the father (husband of Mary Gaines):

In rangers under Capts Samuel Wise and Col. Thompson. Taken prisoner on 9 Jan 1779. Served in the militia during 1780 under Maj. Tristan Thomas and Col. Hicks and was a dragoon in Cavalry under Col. Maham during 1781-1782

Ancestry has more details for the son's service (husband of Mary Terrell. But I'm not finding the will of either man. However, there is a cropped signature from something dated 11 Sep 1785 that was posted on Ancestry in 2009 that is attached to the father whose will is referenced and it shows Isom, not Isham. But it doesn't state that it's from his will - instead it states:

11 Sep 1785
Charleston District, South Carolina
Signature from his application for pay for Revolutionary War service

I'll attach the signature under the Media tab.

Thanks, Debbie Gambrell. I think that some more work is needed on these maybe. When we have the same given name on multiple people in a family, it gets so confusing.

Debbie Gambrell, I found this list of Hodge/Hodges men who served with Francis Marion, the Swamp Fox https://sciway3.net/proctor/revwar/swampfox_NCO_H.html

*Benjamin Hodge
*Benjamin Hodges
*Henry Hodges
*Henry Hodge
*Isom Hodges
*James Hodge
*John Hodges
*Johnathan Hodge
*Joseph Hodges
*Robert Hodges
*Thomas Hodges
*Welcome Hodges

Judging from 1790 census, Hodge/Hodges were in about every region of the state - Charleston District, Cheraws District, Abbeville District, Georgetown District, Camden District, Fairfield District, Union District, Pendleton District, Laurens District, and Greenville District. These districts were more than what is now one county. This goes from one end to the other of the state. Most of the men above would be from the Pee Dee or coastal regions.

Awesome! Thanks for sharing the link and the info, Susanne.

During that period, my directs would have been both in North and South Carolina and a generation late my branch migrated to Mississippi. I have so many ancestors from the areas you listed.

Hope you and yours have a blessed holiday season.

Debbie, some of the men in service with Francis Marion were from North Carolina as the area he covered was in the upper coastal plain of SC and NC. I had an ancestor Roger Roberts who served in both states and is on Marion's roll. He eventually settled in "Marion District."

This mobility factor is something to consider as you noted many moved west - particularly after the War of 1812.

I just ordered "A History of Marlboro County" by Rev. Thomas and maybe can find more.