Samuel Riggs I - Parentage

Started by Debbie Gambrell on Sunday, July 19, 2020
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7/19/2020 at 11:18 AM

It seems to me if no parents are proven, there shouldn't be any connected. Having them connected gives incorrect Geni pathways.

7/19/2020 at 3:17 PM

I have found an edward riggs III as a parent. Not positve how accurate that is but edward riggs III's parent is edward riggs II. (based off ancestry.com research). I dont know about pathways but sam is a common dna match to 2 relatives of mine. (one from timothy riggs and the other from william riggs line).

7/19/2020 at 10:53 PM

I had my tree on Ancestry connected that way also, but notice that the Geni curator notes on Samuel's page state:

Curator Note from Hatte Anne Blejer (Rubenstein) (3/13/2012):
Not proven to be the son of Edward Riggs III. See ‘The Genealogy of Edward Riggs of Roxbury, Massachusetts, Revisited’, by Robert Charles Anderson, F.A.S.G., and Alvy Ray Smith, The Genealogist, Fall 2009, Vol. 23, No. 2, pages 131-173.

Which is why I opened the discussion about lack of proof of parentage since Hatte has ruled out Sameul being the son of Edward Riggs III.

What I mean by pathways is when people run searching to see how they're related to this or that person, Geni selects a 'pathway' to show the relationship. If parents and other ancestors are incorrectly connected, then the relationships on those pathways are going to be in error. I think some of the Ancestry trees have picked up on these connections to the parents on Geni and added them to their trees, which doesn't validate the connections, just seems to be perpetuating misinformation.

I'm from the line of Samuel's son Edward, so we're obviously related on the Riggs lines, Ruben. Nice to meet you, cousin. :)

7/21/2020 at 5:52 PM

Debbie Gambrell I read this yesterday and started looking into it. I need to find the source I used from NEGHS again.

I disconnected Samuel Riggs I from those parents for now. We can certainly re-consider if they do turn out to be his parents.

I'm a Riggs descendant by the way. Roxbury Riggs. https://www.geni.com/path/Hatte-Blejer+is+related+to+Edward-Riggs-I...

7/21/2020 at 6:16 PM

https://www.geni.com/path/Hatte-Blejer+is+related+to+Edward-Riggs-I..., thanks so much. I wish I knew for sure who Samuel's parents were. I'd love us to be Riggs cousins! But, we do share Underwood ancestors, so cousins just the same. :)

7/23/2020 at 11:57 AM

Twitchell, Underwood, and Riggs I think intermarried.

8/5/2021 at 7:17 AM

Still off-and-on researching for Samuel's parents and wife. I came across this today:

http://freepages.rootsweb.com/~fesschequy/genealogy/Riggs.html

It lists Edward and wife Mary (proven not to be Munn) as his parents:

EDWARD RIGGS, son of Sgt. Edward and Elizabeth Riggs, born circa 1650. Edward's date of death is unknown, but he was still living on 10 April 1696 when he was granted 100 acres by the East New Jersey proprietors. Karen Bryant says he died in 1716 in Newark, New Jersey. It is possible that he is the Edward Riggs who witnessed the will of William Brant of Elizabethtown, New Jersey, on 21 Jan. 1708/9. On the other hand, a "Widow Riggs" who might be Edward's wife is mentioned on 1 May 1697 -- if she was Edward's wife, that means he had died before that date. Edward's wife was certainly named MARY (former speculation that Mary was the daughter of a Daniel Munn has been shown to be in error). Geoff Riggs writes, "In 1667, Edward and his family followed his father Edward's family from Derby, Connecticut, to Newark, N.J., where they were amongst the original settlers -- he and his brother Joseph were the first to obtain grants of outside lands from the town authorities. He was assigned a home lot in Newark and, though he was not as educated as his two younger brothers, he succeeded in accumulating other landed property there, which he subsequently distributed among his children. In his land conveyances, he was often designated as a 'planter.'" Old tradition and earlier genealogical works assign 10 or 11 children to Edward and Mary, but at this time only two of those children, Edward and Joseph, have been positively identified in surviving contemporary records (with tentative evidence for two others, James and Samuel, and a possible reference to the youngest child Charity). Those 10 or 11 children, given in their traditional order of birth, are:

-- ANNA RIGGS, born circa 1662, md. J. Gage.
-- JAMES RIGGS, born circa 1664 or perhaps 1679.
-- MARY RIGGS, born circa 1666, md. Joseph Lindsley.
-- EDWARD RIGGS, born circa 1668 or perhaps 1673, md. Aphia Stoughton.
?? LYDIA RIGGS.
6. JOSEPH RIGGS, born circa 1675.
-- MARTHA RIGGS, born circa 1677, md. S. Freeman.
-- ELIZABETH RIGGS, born circa 1678, md. John Lyon.
-- JOHN RIGGS, born circa 1679 (1669?), md. Frances Colburn.
-- SAMUEL RIGGS, born circa 1681.
-- CHARITY RIGGS, born circa 1685, md. John Bowers.

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