Rebecca Travers (Booth) - Untangling Rebecca Booth from Rebecc(a) Barrett (& Travers+ spouses)

Started by Dan Cornett on Saturday, April 25, 2020
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4/25/2020 at 9:50 PM

There have been some 'smerging' of data between this person:
Rebecca Barrat Travers (ID 6000000002390124074) and
Rebecc Barrett (ID 6000000013726918266)

From looking at the Revisions, one of them was (apparently) born in the Colonies (Virginia) and the other in Ireland.
Their profiles both have them having died on the same date in London, but that's probably wrong (for at least one of them).

Both appear to have been 'married' to William Travers, II (ID 6000000000140976143) at various time during revisions & merges.

Some of the dates:
Birth Date 1-Jul-1597 vs. 1609 (which may be for the one born in Ireland?)
Death Date 15-Apr-1688 (and at some point earlier on, neither had a death date ... now the both have the same one).

4/25/2020 at 9:57 PM

Other related discussions specific to each of them are:
https://www.geni.com/discussions/211572
https://www.geni.com/discussions/211566
https://www.geni.com/discussions/208701

I suggest we take a 'step back' from those 3 discussions until we figure out if these two women are different, real, and where the belong geographically, then those other 3 discussions will more easily be resolved.

Dan Cornett, when I briefly looked at the revisions of the 2 profiles I noticed that some of the dates had been modified as recently as today.

Rebecca Barrat Travers date of birth was changed today from 1609 to 1597

4/25/2020 at 11:38 PM

Here’s an online tree that may provide some clues. (I went down a couple of generations)

http://richardremme.com/genealogy/tng/getperson.php?personID=I53315...

4/25/2020 at 11:40 PM
4/25/2020 at 11:43 PM

Keri Denise Jackson, ♊ Twin "A", GEDMATCH GQ346442C1 Let’s stick with the one discussion here, and don’t make changes until we get this figured out better.

I did change the date cause I believe that they are the same person based on the info that was already there. But that is all I changed. I was going to merge them and then I stopped and tried to get help.

Cause I realized they were both MPs and realized I needed help to merge them.

Cause I looked her up and some trees (which is all I could find on either one) gave one date and some gave the other date. Being that I think they are the same person (cause same father was given for both or at least he was a Booth) I chose the date that made the most sense. Sorry if I was wrong. I really believe I am correct. If I am not then I apologize and will not do anything like this again.

4/26/2020 at 12:27 AM

We have two different Travers families that have been crossed.

http://www.selectsurnames4.com/travers2.html

The Two Quaker William Travers
There were apparently two William Travers Quakers living in the 1650’s, one living in London and the other in Bandon, county Cork.
The first William Travers opened a tobacco shop at the Three Feathers on Watling Street in 1636. He had married Rebecca Booth who later became a fervent Quaker. He followed her in this belief as he was mentioned several times in the Quaker books in London of the time. However, he died in 1664. Rebecca remained passionately involved in the Quaker movement until her death at the age of 79 in 1688.
The second William Travers, from the Nateby family in Lancashire, was living in Bandon at that time. William like his mother was an ardent Quaker but faced persecution in Ireland. In 1655 the Earl of Clancarthy and his soldiers were destroying the wall and other properties at Bandon. William took refuge in America, first in Isle of Wight county in Virginia where he married Sary West and then in the 1670’s in North Carolina. He died at Pasquotank in Albemarle county in 1685.

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Now we’re beginning to get enough information to sort the trees,

My Mary Travers did marry My Hale, Nicholas Haile it looks like.

http://richardremme.com/genealogy/tng/getperson.php?personID=I55789...

sorry it looks like I may have been wrong about the date of birth sorry about that.

I only hope I am as good as you are one day Erica Howton . I am learning. You have taught me a lot but still have a ways to go.

4/26/2020 at 12:40 AM

Wait until I have a chance to look at that link.

https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/g/r/e/Miles-Green/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-05... Shows the William Travers of Nateby as married to Rebecca Booth or Barrett. Well, she wasn’t Rebecca (Booth) Travers the famous Quaker in London.

You need to define the kids.

4/26/2020 at 12:41 AM

Your link is meaningless. Just a tree with no records cited.

4/26/2020 at 12:43 AM

And you’ll notice - http://richardremme.com/genealogy/tng/getperson.php?personID=I53308... - he crossed the Nateby Travers with the London Travers.

See I told you. You are definitely one of the best Erica. That makes so much more sense. Sorry I did not know why something was wrong but knew that it was. I was apparently wrong that they were the same person but was right that there was only one wife for this William Travers III.

Then which one did she marry?

I'm confused. I know trees are not always right. Believe me I know. But a lot of times there is some truth to it. You just have to figure out what that is.

I see on https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/g/r/e/Miles-Green/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-05... the last name of Travis is everywhere which always makes me nervous because it makes me think that they are not sure about the name. I don't know I am wondering if somehow a Travis Family has not been thrown into the mix.

I think they are confusing people too cause they talk about marriage record "one says Munster Ireland and another london, England " I don't know.

4/26/2020 at 1:26 AM

The London record is Rebecca Booth the famous Quaker.

Plot her tree. Then you’ll know who is not your line.

https://www.genealogy.com/ftm/g/r/e/Miles-Green/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-05... say that "He was married to Rebecca BOOTH on 16 Mar 1623 in Brandon Bridge, County Cork, Ireland"

And it does not list son Raleigh.

Risking sounding stupid...How do I plot her tree?

4/26/2020 at 3:55 AM

You could make a separate tree from create a branch, or just write out what you know from the Wikipedia page & other citations in a little text document.

Rebecca Booth (dates / locations) m William Travers (dates / locations)
Children (if any)

4/26/2020 at 3:58 AM

Do we know Raleigh Travers parents? This site doesn’t

https://www.colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I0325...

4/26/2020 at 4:02 AM

http://vagenweb.org/tylers_bios/vol1-33.htm

Travers, Raleigh, patented land on Rappahannock river in 1653; justice of the peace for Lancaster county in 1656; burgess for Lancaster in 1651, 1661, 1665, 1666 and 1669. He was lieutenant-colonel of the Lancaster militia. He died before 1674, as in that year his widow Elizabeth married Robert Beckingham. He was brother of Colonel William Travers, of Richmond county.

Travers, Colonel William, an early resident of Rappahannock county, was a speaker of the house of burgesses in 1677. He died in 1679, leaving by his wife Rebecca, Samuel, Raleigh and William Travers. His wife married (secondly) John Rice.

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I don’t think the origins of these brothers are known.

Sorry I abandoned you. I was hurting really bad and had to lay down to rest. The Colonial Settlers page I was looking at last night. I will look at them some more. Thank you Erica Howton .

On https://www.colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I0295... they say Nicholas Haile is married to Mary (Unproven) Pollard and only has 3 children. George , Mary and Nicholas.

This site http://richardremme.com/genealogy/tng/getperson.php?personID=I55789... also lists only 3 children George, [(Issue) and Mary. Not sure what is meant by [(issue). I know they used issue to refer to children but never seen it used as a name.

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