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Started by Keri Denise Jackson, ♊ Twin "A" on Friday, April 17, 2020
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I am related three ways to our man here.

Richard Neville, "the Kingmaker," 16th Earl of Warwick is your 17th great grandfather
You
→ Jimmy Lynn Jackson
your father → Dixie Dean Jackson
his mother → Eliza Lee Bratton
her mother → Elizabeth White (Suttle)
her mother → Isaac G. Suttle Jr.
her father → Isaac G. Suttle Sr.
his father → Rev. William Suttle, Sr.
his father → George Isaac Settle, Sr.
his father → John Settle
his father → Elizabeth Settle
his mother → Thomas George Bruce
her father → Lady Diana Elgin de Vere, Countess
his mother → Elizabeth Cecil
her mother → Elizabeth Scott
her mother → Dorothy Stafford
her mother → Ursula Pole, Baroness Stafford
her mother → Margaret of Clarence, Countess of Salisbury
her mother → Isabella Neville, Duchess of Clarence
her mother→ Richard Neville, "the Kingmaker," 16th Earl of Warwick
her father

But check this out

Richard Neville, "the Kingmaker," 16th Earl of Warwick is your fourth great uncle's 12th great grandfather.
You
→ Jimmy Lynn Jackson
your father → Dixie Dean Jackson
his mother → Eliza Lee Bratton
her mother → Elizabeth White (Suttle)
her mother → Isaac G. Suttle Jr.
her father → Lavinia Welch
his sister → Joshua Welch
her husband → George Welch
his father → Alice Welch
his mother → George Isaac Settle, Sr.
her father → John Settle
his father → Elizabeth Settle
his mother → Thomas George Bruce
her father → Lady Diana Elgin de Vere, Countess
his mother → Elizabeth Cecil
her mother → Elizabeth Scott
her mother → Dorothy Stafford
her mother → Ursula Pole, Baroness Stafford
her mother → Margaret of Clarence, Countess of Salisbury
her mother → Isabella Neville, Duchess of Clarence
her mother → Richard Neville, "the Kingmaker," 16th Earl of Warwick
her father

and finally

Richard Neville, "the Kingmaker," 16th Earl of Warwick is your 16th great uncle.
You
→ Jimmy Lynn Jackson
your father → Leo Jackson
his father → George Washington Jackson
his father → Mary Ann Jackson
his mother → Randolph E Bobbitt
her father → Nancy Sarah Bobbitt
his mother → Pvt. John Clifton, Jr.
her father → John William Clifton
his father → Cuthbert Clifton, Esq.
his father → James Clifton
his father → Anne Clifton
his mother → Dorothy Halsall
her mother → Henry Stanley, 4th Earl of Derby
her father → Edward Stanley, 3rd Earl of Derby
his father → Thomas Stanley, 2nd Earl of Derby
his father → George Stanley, 9th Baron Strange of Knockin
his father → Lady Eleanor Neville, Countess of Derby
his mother → Richard Neville, "the Kingmaker," 16th Earl of Warwick
her brother

This is nuts. LOL Hey it's late and I'm not totally sure if there is not an error somewhere cause he used to only be my great grandfather. Well as far as the blood relation goes.

Keri Denise Jackson, ♊ Twin "A" Thanks for posting that! I think that unfortunately there are a few errors in the lineages listed above.

The first two go through Elizabeth Settle, but according to Wikitree there is no proof that she is a Bruce. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Settle-116

Her husband, Francis Postumous Suttle, Sr. (I will get to his parents in a moment :-)) did give some cows to the Bruce family, but that looks like to be the extent of their documented interactions. https://www.colonial-settlers-md-va.us/getperson.php?personID=I0295...

Her father, George Bruce, Sr., is definitely not the son of Thomas Bruce, 1st Earl of Elgin and Lady Diana Elgin de Vere, Countess. Their marriage was very short and they did not have any children, so that breaks the first two connections. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Bruce,_1st_Earl_of_Elgin

Francis Postumous Suttle, Sr. has some interesting claims for parents. John Setle, of Potterton mentions a "sonne or daughter not as yet borne" in his will (proved 8 November 1623). https://www.wikitree.com/photo/jpg/Settle-468
Settle family researchers have decided that this unborn Setle child was the Francis Settle, who immigrated to Virginia without any real proof and "There will never be any sure documentation of this because the records of Barwick-in-Elmet are missing for the years 1602-1630." See about section of John Suttle Wikitree has an incomprehensible section from "The Settle-Suttle Family" by Col. Wm. Emmett Reese which says that "strong circumstantial evidence supports the belief that the posthumous child was named F..." I cannot find this book on the internet so getting it from the NYPL to look at their "evidence" will have to go on my post-lockdown list of things to do. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Settle-116#_note-3

Tamas

Thank you Tamás Flinn Caldwell-Gilbert . Did you fix it for me? Is so then Thank you , Thank You,Thank You.

Now Tamás Flinn Caldwell-Gilbert if you research my father's MTDNA you will find it goes back to Richard III's mother Cecily (found this out through National Geographic DNA test) so there may be a reason that some people have assumed that Elizabeth Cecil was a Bruce Etc even without any documented evidence. The Cecils are on my Dad's Mom's side. I don't know but just a thought on the matter. I am doing family research to find the truth about my family (whether good or bad) not to prove I'm related to anyone famous or anything so if it's true great and if it's not great.

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