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Started by Dr Drieka Johanna Boucher on Friday, March 27, 2020
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I would like to enquire if anybody knows of ships (with their departure and arrival dates) that brought POW's to and from India after 20 September 1901. I want to know when my grandfather was shipped to India. He was captured in the Rouxville district on 20/9/1901 and sent to Upper Topa camp at the age of 16. He was Diederick Johannes Botha. Also looking to find when he was shipped back from there.

Hallo Drieka,

Volgens WO 108/368 List of Boer prisoners of war, numbers 1-32561, 1899-1902:

Prinsoner Number: 23530
Surname: BOTHA
Christian Name: Diederik Johannes
Nationality: Free Stater
Age: 16
Home Address: Bluegumboom (Bloekomboom?)
Town or District: Ladybrand
Field Cornetcy or Commando: Ladybrand
Where Captured: Rouxville
Date of Capture: 20 Sept., 1901
Date of Receipt: 16 Oct., 1901
Remarks: India, 2 Nov., 1901

Die skip wat 2de November 1901 vertrek het vir Indië was die "Aurania" met 742 Boerekrygsgevangenes, en het in Indië gearriveer op die 27ste November 1901 (dank: Elmarie Malherbe via AngloBoerWar.com).

Die tweede deel van jou vraag is meer ingewikkeld; ek het 'n aanhaling van die amptelike aankondiging in verband met die Boerekrygsgevangenes:

"Burghers of the late South African Republic and the late Orange Free State may proceed to South Africa at once at their own expense, on declaring their allegiance and furnishing proofs of possessing means of subsistence.
Burghers may go elsewhere than to South Africa at their own expense, but they will thereby forfeit all claim to eventual repatriation at the expense of His Majesty's Government; and if, without declaring their allegiance, they elect to proceed elsewhere than to South Africa, they will hereafter be prevented from returning to South Africa.

Burghers unable to proceed to SouthAfrica at their own expense will be repatriated by His Majesty's Government on their declaring allegiance and as soon as arrangements can be made for their transport and reception in South Africa.
Foreign prisoners of war, who do not claim to be burghers, will not be allowed to return to South Africa. Such foreigners may at once leave at their own expense if they wish to do so. The others may be handed over to their consuls, if their governments wish to make special arrangements for removing them; otherwise, they must wait till His Majesty's Government find it convenient to repatriate them.

Prisoners of war of foreign origin who were naturalized as burghers of the late South African Republic or of the late Orange Free State on or after the 29th of September, 1899, are to be treated as foreigners and not as burghers. Prisoners of foreign origin who can produce satisfactory evidence that they werenaturalized as burghers of the late South African Republic or the late Orange Free State before the 29th of September, 1899, will be treated as burghers.

Rebels will be forwarded to South Africa under the charge of the captains of the transports by which they are sent, and on arrival will be handed over, according as they belong to the Cape or Natal, to the authorities whom the governors of the Cape or Natal, respectively, may appoint to receive them. It must be understood that the repatriation of prisoners must depend on the readiness of the colonial governments to receive them, as the circumstances of the new colonies do not admi tof the return of unlimited numbers at one time.

Ek kyk verder vir jou en sal laat weet wat ek vind.

Groete,
Drummond

Baie, baie dankie. Hierdie oupa se. Vader is St Helena toe gestuur en hy is daar oorlede. Ek gaan, indien Corona dit toelaat, in November St Helena. Toe om daar kansie te gaan lê. Laat weet as ek iets van belang daar moet gaan naspeur.

Hi Drieka, jou boom op Geni is onvoltooid? Ek sien nie Diderik Johannes Botha òf sy vader nie? Ek kan soek vir sy vader ook as dit sal help?

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