Col. Lawrence Smith - So how is this correct?

Only you can know if this is your line...my line was done by a hired genealogist. Lawrence is my 8th great grandfather.

And that makes you my 7th Cousin, if your line is correct.

My 10th Grandfather -- line looks correct on my end.

Col. Lawrence Smith is your 10th great grandfather.
You
→ Gladys (Carner) Carr
your mother → Vinnie Lee Carner
her mother → Laura Bell Wesley
her mother → John Perry Warren
her father → John Marion Barber
his father → Charles Valentine Barber
his father → Robert Barber
his father → Ambrose Barbour
his father → James II Barbour
his father → Elizabeth Catlett
his mother → Sarah Taliaferro
her mother → Col. Lawrence Smith
her father

We’re trying to figure out. Where the Smith came from. My third cousin believes that we are related to the Lord Strangford and Westinhanger Smythes. Plus Governor William Smith of Virginia had a ring with the Smith coat of arms on it supposedly with the three Lions and sash. From our side of the family we couldn’t find a Smith that was related to us directly in about 200 years. It was a mystery. Supposedly Sydney Smith is our ancestor. But until recently I’ve never heard of Colonel Lawrence Smith. But evidence shows Col Lawrence Smith’s line that there is a Blount and the Smiths are related to the Blount's. It’s also like Reverend David Stewart who came from Scotland in 1715 and is supposedly related to the Earls and Moray. I’m looking for Thomas Customer Smythe as a direct ancestor.

Linda Carr Buchholz, i had no idea we shared this Smith line..this is moms side, and mine looks correft as well. This is so cool that we share this line as well!

Kevin Patrick Carey

I think this is the Thomas Customer Smythe you may be looking for

Thomas "Customer" Smythe, MP

Kevin Patrick Carey

Here's the path between your Thomas Smythe & Col Lawrence Smith

Col. Lawrence Smith is Thomas "Customer" Smythe, MP's 8th cousin five times removed.
Thomas "Customer" Smythe, MP
→ John Smythe, Esq., of Corsham
his father → Isabel Smythe
his mother → Sir John de Neville, Earl of Northumberland
her father → Alice Montagu (Montacute), 5th Countess of Salisbury
his mother → Thomas Montacute, 4th Earl of Salisbury
her father → John Montacute, 3rd Earl of Salisbury
his father → John de Montacute, 1st Baron Montacute
his father → Catherine de Montagu, Countess of Salisbury
his mother → Agnes de Grandison
her sister → Agnes de Northwood
her daughter → Marcella de Hesketh
her daughter → Thomas de Hesketh
her son → Nicholas de Hesketh
his son → Sir Thomas Hesketh,
his son → Thomas Hesketh Of Hesketh
his son → Robert Hesketh of Hesketh and Rufford
his son → Thomas Hesketh
his son → Helen Hesketh
his daughter → Lawrence Towneley, II
her son → Lawrence Towneley, III
his son → Elizabeth Smith
his daughter → Col. Lawrence Smith
her son

https://www.geni.com/path/Thomas-Customer-Smythe-MP+is+related+to+C...

Kevin Patrick Carey

MY connection to YOUR Thomas Customer Smythe is this

Thomas "Customer" Smythe, MP is your third cousin 14 times removed.
You
→ Gladys (Carner) Carr
your mother → Virgil Carner
her father → George Robert Carner
his father → William "WP" Phillip Carner
his father → Joel Carner
his father → John Daniel Carner, Sr.
his father → Rosannah (Grymes) Carner
his mother → Frances Grymes
her mother → Gov. Edmund Jennings
her father → Sir Edmund Jennings, MP
his father → Lady Elizabeth Jennings
his mother → Lady Elizabeth Morley Parker
her mother → Muriel Tresham
her mother → Sir Robert Throckmorton, of Coughton Court
her father → Katherine Throckmorton
his mother → Elizabeth Vaux
her mother → Alice Fitzhugh
her mother → Sir John de Neville, Earl of Northumberland
her brother → Isabel Smythe
his daughter → John Smythe, Esq., of Corsham
her son → Thomas "Customer" Smythe, MP
his son

Beverly Renee Hallman Marsh, Gedmatch Kit #XK9447597

We're probably related 10 ways to Sunday. LOL

Someone connected my line to Lawrence Smith I didn’t do that. I think both of you should look at my first cousin five times removed Governor William Smith known as extra Billy Smith of Virginia. Both of his parents were first cousins. Look at his picture do you have any Smiths that look like him in your lines? I know for a fact my older brother looks exactly like him. And his ancestors are listed at Sydney Smith not Col Lawrence Smith. But if any of your Smiths look like my smiths then I will agree there’s a 99% chance that were related. Are used to work at my former job with a gentleman whose last name was Smith. I didn’t know it at the time. But when I found a picture of extra Billy Smith. He looked exactly like this guy that I used to work with And my Older brother.

And a lot of times among English folks during that time first names were given family names. So there would be a pattern between William Thomas etc. etc. and then they would throw in a middle name from the mothers family. For instance five generations ago Conway is in ancestral surname on my side of the family. So is Alexander, so is Foote, Blackwell The last William Smith and my family Line was William Rowley Smith. But Alexander continued and middle names. My grandfather’s middle name was Alexander and my younger brother’s middle name is also Alexander. We never had any Christopher Smith in our line in the 19th century. It all became Henry or William oh and technically Governor William Smith is actually the last William Smith in my line.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_W._Smith This is another Smith that I’m very closely related to. If he looks like any of your Smith’s please let me know.

They were two kinds of Smith’s and my family there were the white Smiths and the blacksmith. Some were very fair and complexion and some were Mediterranean looking. I attribute that to both my Spanish ancestry and Native American ancestry.

I also look at the aristocratic Smiths in England they look like my Smiths.

I also look at the aristocratic Smiths in England they look like my Smiths. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percy_Smythe,_6th_Viscount_Strangford

The thing is we can’t prove directly that we’re related to Thomas customer Smith. But that is what our family believes information was lost during the revolutionary war. More evidence I’m sure was probably burned during the Civil War. These are one of the two ancestral mysteries that I have questions for. Now if I’m related to Col Lawrence Smith indeed then I’ll accept it but me and my cousin need genealogical proof. Records and not Internet records.

What other ancestral mystery is Reverend David Stuart who came over to settle Virginia in the Early 18th century. And has a connection to the Earls Of Moray A lot of people on the Internet list who his parents are. This is not correct. But we all speculate that he comes from the Earl of Moray line not directly but he is of that family branch. Once again this is something we cannot prove but what we can prove is that Lucy Erskine was not his mother. And it will say that on this website but it’s not correct and I’ve asked Erica Howton to disconnect it and she’s done it before and then I find it reconnected again to Lucy Erskine.

Probably Linda Carr Buchholz!😂