Mahala Bird

Started by Erica Howton on Friday, December 27, 2019
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Anyone know anything about this?

http://www.redeaglejw.net/ged2www/n00000fs.htm#I20000

Notes for William Henry STARR

Large flat monument on ground bearing this inscription:"Erected by J.A. Kn
owles in 1936 in memory of his grandfather, Wm Henry Starr, born March 2 8,
1801, died July 28, 1864. Married first to Mahala Bird, of which uni on there
were born thirteen children which included Sarah B. Starr, moth er of J.A.
Knowles. After death of Mahala Bird-Starr, Wm Henry Starr marr ied Mrs. Mary
Hawkins, of which union three children were born.

While possibly related to the Cherokee Starrs of Rusk County, William do es
not appear to have been of Cherokee ancestry himself. His wife Mahala B ird
was believed to have been a full blood Cherokee. However, his second w ife was
non-Indian. William was a Methodist minister.

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I’ve been helping Andi Bowe clean up Bird families and ran across this.

Here’s her geni profile:

Mahala Starr

http://thegagenweb.com/gafayette/biography/starr.htm

Has her as the daughter of Williamson Bird & Elizabeth Robards.

William Henry Starr and Mahalia Bird-Starr both Cherokees according to this message board https://www.ancestry.com/boards/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=1449&...

I have Bird and Byrd (more than one line) but this goes to NN and NN so I do not know. It is showing through mom as an in-law around and about

“ Here's an excerpt from the Texas Band of Cherokee and Adairs: ".....The majority of these families if not all had some ties to the late Texas Cherokee Chief, Richard Fields. ...”

So we’re looking at the Mount Tabor Community?

The Starr side is Methodist preacher circuit riders, a slew of them. Even the family tree says probably “not” the Cherokee Starr’s.

Just found the name Williamson Bird and in Geni this fellow looks like he could have been a Methodist preacher also.

Rev. J.W. Bird

This is frustrating, I feel Mahala should be around here. Rev. Jonathan Bird

But so far, the trees look complete & she married 1821 in Georgia / Alabama. Looks like these guys stayed

Rev. William Henry STARR

William Henry, who seems to have always gone by “Henry”, is the eldest son, but second child of Joshua and Fenton (Melear). Born in Wilkes County March 28, 1801, he led his siblings on a westward journey that took him to Henry County, Georgia, Chambers County, Alabama and finally Smith County, Texas. Before leaving Wilkes Henry married Mahala BIRD December 18, 1821; she was the daughter of Williamson and Elizabeth (Robards) Bird. Although how he got the land is not known, he sold Lot 59 in District 3 in Henry County July 2, 1825 to his brother John for $250. [Deed Book C/D, p. 473] After a possible sojourn in Troup County, they eventually settled in Chambers County in the 1830s. There is no Conference record for his ministry in Georgia; Alabama Conference records indicate he was “one of several ministers licensed to preach by the Quarterly Conferences of the Lafayette Circuit in 1839.” [West p. 511]

Henry was listed in the 1850 Chambers County census as a 49 year old Methodist minister with property valued at $2,480. He and Mahala had thirteen children: Williamson Bird (1824-1876); Frances (1826-1896); James N. (died 1863); Mary (born 1830); Mahala Anne (1832-1899); John Wesley (died prior 1850); Amanda Fletcher (1834-1900); Sarah B. (1836-1903); Jane (1839-1869); Joshua (died age 12); Henryetta (born 1841) and twins who died in. infancy.

Mahala died sometime after the 1850 census was taken; Henry married the widowed Mrs. Mary Hawkins March 18, 1852. Mary and her first husband, Thomas, appear on the 1850 Chambers County Census with three children: Mary G. “Tug”; William F. “Billy”; and Thomas N. She and Henry had three children of their own: Emma, Madora and a daughter named Henry. Shortly after their marriage, they moved to Texas with their combined families. They settled several miles northeast of Tyler on Ray Creek, in the area of Smith County where many large springs are found. Here, Henry and his younger brother Joshua Jr. served as unpaid ministers for the local Marvin Methodist Church for many years. At the time of his death he owned 1,683 acres. William Henry Starr died July 28, 1864 at the home of his daughter, Mary McDougal. He is buried in the nearby Starr - Hawkins Cemetery.

https://sites.rootsweb.com/~gafayett/biography/starr.htm

The above post says Mahala's parents were Williamson Bird & Elizabeth Robards.

My family Bible lists Williamson Bird and Elizabeth Robards as parents of Mahala (nicknamed Aly) W. Bird b. March 18, 1799 who died between 1850 -1852 in Chambers Co., AL. Mahala married Wm HENRY Starr Dec. 18, 1821 in GA. Records indicate that Mahala was born in Cherokee Nation East (maybe Randolph Co. NC or GA) and pictures of her daughter Sara Bird Starr leave no doubt of the Native American genetics. Is the Cherokee Nation East from Mahala's mother or father or both and which Williamson Bird is this? I've never seen so many jumbled up dates, marriages and impossibilities of births vs marriage dates as the postings for some of the Williamson Birds on this site. I've downloaded a whole file that has the same problem.Is there anyone out there who's been able to sort out this mess?Thank you so much, Debbie

https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/bird/5569/

Wm Henry STARR, born March 28, 1801, died July 28, 1864. Married
first to Mahala BIRD, of which union there were born thirteen children which included Sarah B
Starr, mother of J A KNOWLES. After death of Mahala BIRD STARR, Wm Henry STARR married Mrs
Mary HAWKINS,of which union three children were born. One step-son, Billy Hawkins, who died in
1862 is buried here by the side of his step-father. "Copied 13 Jun 1982"

http://files.usgwarchives.net/tx/smith/cemetery/starhawk.txt

https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/75297736/person/42...

This link says Williamson Bird's (husband of Elizabeth Robard) parents were Williamson Bird (1720) and Phoebe Price

Rev. Jonathan Bird is your second cousin 6 times removed.
You
→ Geneive Melba Hicks
your mother → John Mac Emerson
her father → Asberry Garfield Emerson
his father → Henry McDaniel Emerson
his father → Drury Willis Emerson
his father → James Emerson
his father → Mary Emerson
his mother → Mary Susannah Armstrong
her mother → Thomas Bird, Jr.
her brother → Benjamin Bird, Sr.
his son → Rev. Jonathan Bird
his son

Shortest in-law relationship
Rev. Jonathan Bird is your second cousin four times removed's wife's first cousin's husband's father.
You
→ Viet Nam War Veteran, SFC Freddie Ralph Hicks, Sr
your father → Viola Isabelle Hicks
his mother → Sarah Ida Webber
her mother → Jacob Honeycutt
her father → Dicie Honeycutt
his mother → Isom Israel
her father → Jesse Israel
his brother → Sarah "Sallie" Graves Ledford
his daughter → Silas Ledford
her son → Vienna Sealy Curtis Ledford
his wife → Rev Amos Curtis
her father → Rev. Moses Curtis
his brother → Mary Pauline Bird
his daughter → Clark S Bird
her husband → Rev. Jonathan Bird
his father

Capt. Williamson Bird, Sr. &
Williamson Bird, Jr.

So someone else has this.

Andi Bowe this Williamson ll is a new profile, maybe you want to check with the manager?

According to this William's 2nd wife - Mary "Widow" Hawkins maiden Name was McCoy

https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/75297736/person/42...

My relation to Williamson Bird

Williamson Bird is your fifth cousin 7 times removed.
You
→ Theodore "Ted" Andoe Carr
your father → Orel Jonathan Carr
his father → Jonathan Carr
his father → Charity Carr
his mother → Charity Hockett
her mother → Sarah Charity Hockett
her mother → Sarah Ann Beals (Cook)
her mother → Mary Cook
her mother → Rev. Alexander Underwood
her father → Samuel Underwood
his father → Thomas Underwood, of Anne Arundel
his father → John Underwood
his father → Edmond Underwood
his brother → Colonel William Underwood
his son → Ann Williamson
his daughter → Henry Williamson
her son → Adicia 'Dicey' Bird
his daughter → Williamson Bird
her son

There are date issues. This myheritage tree is showing more realistic dates

Williamson Bird
1715 - 1808
Birth:
Circa 1715
Prince Edward, Virginia
Ancestral File Number:
1H5V-6LW
Marriage:
Marriage to: <Private>
Circa 1737
Prince Edward, Virginia
Death:
Circa 1808
Wilkes, Georgia
Family members

Children:
Price Bird
1738 - ?
Fanny Bird
1744 - ?
Philemon Bird
1747 - ?
Dyce Bird
1750 - ?
John Bird
1754 - ?
Betsy Bird
1742 - ?
Caty Bird
1746 - ?
Tabitha Bird
1748 - ?
Williamson Bird
1754

This tree has a different wife

Birth:
Nov 30 1772
Richmond County, Virginia Colony
Marriage:
Marriage to: Clarissa Harlow BIRD (born LINDSAY)
1812
Marriage:
Marriage to: Clarissa Harlow BIRD (born LINDSAY)
1827
Residence:
District 606, Taliaferro, Georgia, USA
1840
Marriage:
Marriage to: Clarissa Harlow BIRD (born LINDSAY)
1866
Marriage:
Marriage to: Clarissa Harlow BIRD (born LINDSAY)
1880
Residence:
Marital Status: MarriedRelation to Head of House: Head, Waycross, Ware, Georgia, USA
1900
Death:
Dec 1842
Crawfordville, Taliaferro, Georgia, USA
Family members
Parents:
Williamson Bird
1720 - 1806
Phoebe Bird (born Price)
1721 - 1806
Wife:
Clarissa Harlow Bird (born Lindsay)
1790 - 1831
Daughter:
Sarah De La Fletcher Baker (born Bird)
1832 - 1914

Clarissa Harlow Bird

(Its a treasure hunt ...)

Ok, someone is DAR

Williamson Bird
in the North America, Family Histories, 1500-2000

Name: Williamson Bird
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 1772
First Marriage Date: 1812
Father: Williamson Bird
Mother: Phoebe Price
Spouse: Clarissa Harlan Lindsey
Child: Sara Fletcher Bird
Source Citation
Book Title: Lineage Book : NSDAR : Volume 139 : 1918

Williamson Bird m Phebe Price was a captain in the Virginia Militia.

https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/61157/46155_b290446-00305?pid=...

My relationships to Wm Bird I
(These are In progress lines for me)
Williamson Bird is your third cousin five times removed.
You
→ Viet Nam War Veteran, SFC Freddie Ralph Hicks, Sr
your father → Viola Isabelle Hicks
his mother → John Thomas Edgar Webber
her father → Mahalia Jane Webber
his mother → William Mills Boykin
her father → Mills Boykin
his father → Major Matthew Boykin, Sr
his father → Ann Boykin
his mother → Robert Williamson, II
her brother → Frances Alden
his daughter → Robert Bird
her son → Williamson Bird
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Shortest in-law relationship
Williamson Bird is your 9th great grandmother's husband's first cousin twice removed.
You
→ Geneive Melba Hicks
your mother → John Mac Emerson
her father → Elma Emerson
his mother → Sallie Edward Swaim
her mother → Martha Adeline Utterback
her mother → Charles Curd
her father → Edmund Curd
his father → Charles Curd
his father → Elizabeth Curd Oglesby
his mother → Daniel Price, II
her father → Susannah Williamson
his mother → Thomas Williamson
her husband → General George Arthur Williamson
his father → Robert Williamson, II
his brother → Frances Alden
his daughter → Robert Bird
her son → Williamson Bird
his son

My relationship to William Henry Starr
Rev. William Henry Starr, I is your 11th cousin twice removed.
You
→ Gladys (Carner) Carr
your mother → Virgil Carner
her father → George Robert Carner
his father → William "WP" Phillip Carner
his father → Joel Carner
his father → John Daniel Carner, Sr.
his father → Rosannah (Grymes) Carner
his mother → Frances Grymes
her mother → Gov. Edmund Jennings
her father → Margaret Jennings
his mother → Frances Barkham
her mother → Sir Thomas Berney
her father → Henry Berney, I
his father → Mary Brompton
his sister → Thomas Stiles
her son → Francis Stiles
his son → Hannah Hinman
his daughter → Sarah Roberts
her daughter → Samuel Roberts
her son → John Roberts
his son → William Roberts
his son → Sarah Starr
his daughter → John Henry "Henry" Starr
her son → Rev. Joshua Starr, I
his son → Rev. William Henry Starr, I
his son

Son of Rev. Williamson Bird.
Born near Crawfordville, Georgia

https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/61215808

Colonel & Reverend Williamson Bird are not the same people IMO.

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